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Message Board > Contest Discussions > Vintage Sewing Contest Rules ( Moderated by JEF)

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Date: 7/11/07 11:41 PM

The vintage sewing contest starts in 3 weeks. I am managing this contest. I haven't done any vintage sewing yet. I am looking foward to seeing the entries.

This is a new contest so there are no rules from a previous contest to start from. This means I really need input on what the rules should be.

Here are the rules, thanks to lots of input!

1. For this contest, vintage is 1920-1982.

2. Patterns need to be vintage or self-drafted from a vintage source (picture or actual item). Vintage re-prints are allowed as are vintage re-issues. Retro patterns that are vintage looking without an original source (picture, time frame etc) are not allowed.

3. Fabrics and techniques do not need to be vintage.

4. Contest is restricted to clothing. Clothing for children and men are included. Crafts and home dec items are not included. Accessories as part of a clothing item can be included.

5. The pattern can be one you have used before. Making a muslin or fitting the pattern before the contest is okay.

6. Items entered in the contest cannot be started until August 1 and must be completed by September 30. This includes cutting out items.



Thanks!

Joanne
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Em's Summer
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Date: 7/12/07 0:07 AM

I think the first rule should have to do with addressing exactly what is vintage sewing.

Will any vintage style do? If something is sewn from a current or recently OOP retro line pattern, will that constitute vintage sewing?

Or does it have to be sewn from an actual vintage pattern? How old does a pattern have to be to be vintage?

I'm curious about these things.

But on a different note, my vote is in for keeping this a contest for adult clothing only. I've seen children's clothing and home decor mixed in with adult clothing in some of the other contests and I think what was sewn was lovely, but I think home decor and sewing for children should be kept separate. Separate contests should be held for those things. Just my .02.

BTW--I love vintage and whatever the rules end up being, I'm in! :-)

Em

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Date: 7/12/07 0:50 AM

Quote: Em's Summer
I think the first rule should have to do with addressing exactly what is vintage sewing.

Will any vintage style do? If something is sewn from a current or recently OOP retro line pattern, will that constitute vintage sewing?

Or does it have to be sewn from an actual vintage pattern? How old does a pattern have to be to be vintage?

I'll not be joining this contest, so take my opinion for the bumpkis it is worth, but I think it would be easier/more encompassing to include both actual vintage patterns and the retro line stuff. You can get the retro stuff for a buck or two when the big however-many have their sales, but you can't get real vintage that cheaply or easily. Also, isn't a lot of the older stuff single sized? That would probably scare off a lot of beginners - myself included - who rely on the multiple sizes to taper in and out where necessary.

That said, as to what time frames the styles have to be from to count, I've no clue. Isn't stuff from the eighties being classified as vintage now, much to my chagrin? (I shouldn't feel old at a mere 27.)

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Date: 7/12/07 1:07 AM

I guess you also have to decide if the contest will be limited to truly vintage and/or retro lines, or if things that "look" or are "inspired by" vintage will count. Will costumes count, or should they be limited to just the costume contest? (At least, I think there's going to be a costume contest, right?) I presume that self-drafted or copied from RTW would count, but again - does it truly have to be an honest-to-goodness vintage style or is 'close enough' close enough?

Wow, once I started thinking about this there's a lot of options out there. And I'm sure I've barely brushed the surface.

Good luck to you Joanne!

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Date: 7/12/07 1:07 AM

Quote: Em's Summer
How old does a pattern have to be to be vintage?




How about 25 years--which would be 1982?

What about adapting a modern pattern to look like a vintage piece of clothing? I have done that, but it would be simpler to just allow vintage patterns or reprints of vintage patterns.

I'm really excited about this contest!

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EveS
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Date: 7/12/07 1:09 AM

Quote: leigh7911
you can't get real vintage that cheaply or easily.

I just picked up a grocery bag full at a local resale shop for .10 each. Patterns dating back to the 50s! And ebay is a virtual treasure trove...well...until PR announced this contest! Now it's gonna be a cat fight to get any worthwhile patterns! :)

I was just going to put in my vote for the opposite opinion. (sorry...not being argumentative ) I just like the idea of authenticity, I guess, and imagine the variety we could get! I bet you don't see the same garment twice, and I find that inspiring. Besides, I think to even the playing field eliminating the *easier-to-follow* new repro patterns is appropriate.

My opinion is determine what decade you want to start with. Call it denial, but I don't think of the 80s as vintage. 70s...yes.

There's my cent and a half. Yes, I have less cents than most.

Eve
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Date: 7/12/07 1:18 AM

Quote: EveS
I was just going to put in my vote for the opposite opinion. (sorry...not being argumentative ) I just like the idea of authenticity, I guess, and imagine the variety we could get! I bet you don't see the same garment twice, and I find that inspiring. Besides, I think to even the playing field eliminating the *easier-to-follow* new repro patterns is appropriate.

No need to apologize!

You see it as levelling the playing field, I see it as potentially scaring off some beginners. And you know, I have a bunch of patterns that I won on ebay as a big ol' lot... that are all too small. I didn't realize that sizing used to be different. (Way to do research, me.)

And limiting it to actual vintage would make it easier to make individual judgement calls, I bet. Really, I think either which way would be fine! I'm just lazy enough that I myself would want the option for the 'easier' current releases.

Is this contest going to be judged by quality (votes) or quantity?

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Date: 7/12/07 1:39 AM

Quote: mikkim
How about 25 years--which would be 1982?

Oh that's depressing when you actually put the numbers out there.

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Date: 7/12/07 8:09 AM

I'd like to see children's sewing included in this. I have several 1950's patterns for my DD, and the contest would be great motivation for me to get one of them made. It may not be a contender, but it would still be fun to enter.

As far as the patterns, I lean toward actual vintage patterns, though either way is fine with me.

I find it difficult to accept that things that I wore in high school (early 1980's) could be considered "vintage." How could this be?!

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Date: 7/12/07 9:02 AM

Quote: EveS
Oh that's depressing when you actually put the numbers out there.

I'm thinking how many vintage patterns that means I have!

I wonder if it would work to have era categories, or decade categories? And to have the garment made be a good example of the style trends of that decade. There are so many patterns that may be vintage by copyright but are pretty generic basics otherwise.

I'm not sure about the number of years ago idea. There are some amazing garments to be made from the 80's that are quite vintage due to their decade specific styling. Think of Brooke Shields cavorting about in a broad shouldered jacket with her pants tucked into those booties. Yep, I lived it and it doesn't seem very long ago but I would still vote for including it.

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