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Date: 1/2/04 7:12 PM

In June my bestest friend is getting married to the most wonderful guy and I'm MoH!  It'll be small, just me and the bride's two sisters standing for her in a beautiful country church in Georgia and since we're all proficient sewers (and all rather poor...) we've decided to make our dresses. We fell in love with this dress and are probably going to mimic it using Mccall's 3571 in the spaghetti-strap version (not shown) and a vogue skirt.  So question - I've heard about wearing a corset to avoid the chicken cutlets that tend to show up on me when wearing a top like this.  I'm small boned (think size 4 RTW) and almost a C cup plus extra 'fluff' that's shown up all over since moving back home and eating real food.  I love sewing formals and strangly enough I'm much more proficient with silks and velvets than more sane fabrics.  I also love period stuff so I'm thrilled to have an excuse to make a non-organ-shifting corset, but since this is my best friend's big day, I figured I should get some advice before getting too creative.  :)  So my questions -

- What's a good corset pattern?  Two costume patterns, Simplicity 5726 and Mccall's 3609, jumped into my basket at Joann's.  Are either of those quality or should I go shopping at Laughing Moon or someplace else?

- Any tips on books/websites/etc that could help me?  

- Any other ideas, thoughts, or helps?  All are appreciated.

Thank you!

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Date: 1/3/04 2:34 PM

Have you read Susan Khalje's Bridal Couture? She's an expert in bridal and evening wear. The book has info on boning and (I think) corsetting. Good book! All kinds of things I didn't know about, and will probably never use...

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Date: 1/3/04 3:26 PM

Try this site:

<a href="www.farthingales.on.ca/" target="_blank">Corset-making website</a>

I can't get this link to work.  Try
     www.farthingales.on.ca

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Date: 1/3/04 7:40 PM

For more information about making corsets, books, video's, patterns, supplies take a look at :

.farthingales.on.ca
corsetmaking.com
corsetsandcrinolines.com
.deliciouscorsets.com
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Date: 1/3/04 7:49 PM

The book Couture Bridalwear pattern design and layout from Margo Arendse is also a good reference about making corsets/bustiers.

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Date: 1/3/04 8:33 PM

Don't forget Lacis!  They have an awesome book dept, online and in person as well.  All the supply you could possibly need also.  I bought a copy of "Waisted Efforts" there, which is an awesome history of corset making with how-to and a cavalcade of period corsets with diagrams.  I reviewed it on the main page in Book Reviews, and reviewed the store as well I think.  Anyway, I love that place.  Lucky you to have an excuse to go for it.
Look for "Rigilene" boning which already has the boning inserted in a tape and all you have to do is topstitch the edges of the tape.  Making channels for boning can be a trying task.
Looking forward to hearing about your progress...

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Date: 1/3/04 9:47 PM

Oooh, so much fun stuff to read and try!  And more questions - those of you who've made corsets, how low did they go below the waist?  I'm still recovering from the last wedding I was in ... the dresses were a horrid empire-waisted backless design and with no time to think of sewing (it was the week after finals and the week before I left for China) I bought a cheap backless strapless bra.  Not only did I still have chicken cutlets and no support but because the bra ended at my waist, all the fluff from there got squeezed like toothpaste to my hips.  Eek!  :eek: I've got enough there to start with!  I refuse to go through that again.  So how low did your corsets go and were they comfortable for sitting, walking and breathing for one day?  Also, did they smoosh or support?  I'm rather partial to my hourglass figure and would like to help rather than supress it.  Next weekend I'll be buying the dress patterns which will help me figure out how high the corset should go on the top which will help me narrow down which corset I make ... which will lead to tons more questions as I start putting it together.  I'm quite excited.  :)  Thanks for the site and book recommendations, I'm loving every moment of research!

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"Hyu gots to know how to sveet tok de costumers, dollink" - Girl Genius, 11-24-08

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Date: 1/3/04 10:14 PM

My wedding took place November 29th.  I originally made a corset to wear under my dress (Laughing Moon Merchantile pattern, I think it's called Victorian Underwear).  I purchased a kit from www.farthingales.on.ca.  I made up this corset with good intentions, had fun embroidering it and everything, and then when I tried it on under the dress, whoops, wouldn't you know the back kept peeking out.  :unhappy:  I did a review of it here on Patternreview.  Do a search through the lingerie section, and it should be there.  

Rather than start all over again, I ended up putting all the undergarment features into the dress, and wore nothing under the dress (other than the lower undergarments that is...).  I put extra boning in, along the seam lines, in between the seam lines on the side fronts and side backs, and under the bust area.  I stitched in a backless bra (I purchased mine from LaSenza here in Canada, but I'm pretty sure Victoria's Secret and major department stores sell them in the States), and I added a wide elastic waist stay with hooks and eyes on the back (like a regular bra back).  My dress, including major pounds of beading, stayed put all night, even on the dance floor.  Just make sure your dress fits really well before you start adding all the boning, cuz that sure is a pain to tear out! Susan Khalje's book was an invaluable resource.

Have fun designing!

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Date: 1/3/04 11:14 PM

Quote (Kitnrose @ Jan. 02 2004,20:12)
I love sewing formals and strangly enough I'm much more proficient with silks and velvets than more sane fabrics.  

Well thank god I'm not the only person like that.  Lol.  My first real project on my own were these velvet pillows with hand embroidary and beading that I made for xmas presents when I was about 12.  Couldn't figure out why everyone was impressed.  Then I moved directly into period stuff, starting with the Renn faire, and moving into Victorian stuff.  It's only the last two years that I'm doing "normal" sewing and I'm finding it buggeredly more difficult than crinolines, corsets, and bustles.
As far as corset length goes, I find that the boning should end about natural waistline, but the fabric can continue below that to keep going.  The two most comfortable corsets I've worn were like that.  If the boning goes over the hips too low, it tend to ride up when you sit, and suddenly you'll be drowning in your own breasts.

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Date: 5/3/04 1:20 PM

Almost done with the corset!  Will review when I finally finish.  Just a few last questions and comments ...

First, is there any trick to breathing in a corset?  My lungs just aren't inflating as usual.  Second, I thought that corsets were supposed to take all the extra fluff and squish it up.  Instead I've lost fluff all over ... My c cup figure is now a very small b.  On the good side, I've retained the hourglass figure.  At first I was wondering where all the fluff went but then I tried to take a breath ... apparently it relocated under my ribs. Well, there's no chicken wing thingys under my arms, like most strapless bras give me, so that's good.  That's what I was going for.  

Will do a complete review tomorrow, when the corset is finished.  It's been a fun project and surprisingly simple.  And really I'm finding it much more comfortable than anything else I could wear with the strapless bridesmaids dress.  Now if I could just figure out the breathing part ....

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"Never underestimate the power of the right dress!" - drsue
"Hyu gots to know how to sveet tok de costumers, dollink" - Girl Genius, 11-24-08

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