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Message Board > Sewing Machines > singer 201 DIY repair help? ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 12/11/07 9:35 PM

Hi!
I'm new here, happy to find such a goldmine! Hoping to get some help with a great Singer 201 I found in beautiful cosmetic and mechanical condition but needs to be rewired.

I read another post here (by "Jenny..."?) saying (I think) that the motor part is easy but the lamp part could be a "PITN". :(

My question is whether there might be help here to step me through the wiring process when i get to it. (which wouldn't be until January I'm afraid) OR direct me elsewhere...?

I must confess, I have tried to do some repairs on different old Singers and even with the service manuals, I am only successful about half the time because I have such a hard time deciphering some of the instructions.

I would happily bring my failed repair attempts to a service guy but after a lot of terrible experiences I feel there may not be a competent honest one in my area.

Thanks for any help or tips!
Lauren S.



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Date: 12/11/07 10:22 PM

I never followed a guide for rewiring the lamp, so I don't know how good I'd be at writing one, but Id be glad to help you with what I can.

Another thing to realize is that if it is a 201-1 it will have a different style of lamp fixture than a 201-2. The motors are different between these two models too. And even among the exact same models the lamps can vary a bit in how they go together/come apart. So, even if I did a step by step pictorial guide, your light might be different.

What electrical / wiring work have you done in the past? Do you own and know how to use a soldering iron? Wire cutters/stripper? For the motor wiring you will need a heat sink of some sort. If this all sounds like Greek to you, get someone to help you in person, really.

The PITN part of the lamp fixtures is getting them apart (those %$@#^&* rings) and/or pulling through the new wires. Soldering on the wires onto the contacts in the fixtures is a little "fussy" but not too bad. Really, the best advise I can offer is to mumble and swear softly so as not to offend the neighbors

You aren't the first one to say that they have a hard time finding a good tech, especially for these older machines. So to those that have an OSMG (old sewing machine guy/guru) in your town- realize what a treasure you have!

If you have some electrical wiring experience and the proper tools, then rewiring won't be difficult and I'd be glad to help you if I can. If you don't have these, then I really think you should have someone with the proper wiring/electrical experience either sit down and show you how in person, or do it for you. This way, you will know its done safely. Even if I give you the best instructions in the world, if you misunderstand them, the results could be SHOCKING!

There are also tons of helpful folks on several Yahoo groups, including the vintage Singer group.

ETA: Are you within driving distance of greater Cleveland/norrtheastern Ohio? If so, you should come over here and I can show you the basics of the wiring work.
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Date: 12/12/07 7:54 PM

Hi Jenny!
thanks for the reply! I so wish I had the 201-1 (the treadle one, right?)!
I have the 201-2 with the potted motor. Used to have a soldering iron that I gave away but I'd get a new one just for this if I knew I had someone to guide me through the process.

My wiring experience is limited to switching out old carbon foot controllers to newer electronic ones (that don't heat up and burn out); also a simple DIY lamp once, and basic stereo stuff long ago.

If I sound like a worthy candidate for your tutoring on this project I would be so greatful!

When I learned how to reassemble a tension assembly I recall what a huge difference it made just having a second source of instructions that made the first make sense. But I've had no luck finding pre-existing detailed directions for this job on the net-and i've searched some...

I don't have the service manual yet either but will order one. Well, let me know what you think; e.g., if I find something in the instructions I don't understand, I could ask you to paraphrase or help to visualize? I of course would not hold you to blame for any "shocking" results! :P but seriously don't think it would come to that since I am overcautious to a fault! I'm in the S.F. bay area, so too far to pay you a visit but thanks for the kind offer!
Lauren S.



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Date: 12/12/07 8:11 PM

The 201-1 would be in a treadle, but there were also plenty of natural born electrified ones - those were the 201-3. I have one.

You can join the vintage Singer group on Yahoo and there you will find instructions in the group files sections on how to remove the motor from a 201-2 (it is the same info as for the 15-91) . It has good diagrams and everything. I referred to it for the first one that I did and found it very well written and not hard to follow at all.

You take the motor out, and connect the new wires up near the coil (about 1 inch out. This is where you need a heat sink to keep the heat from the soldering process from traveling into the coil . Basic, good wire connection standards with your soldering skills will be applied and then cover your connection with electrical shrink wrap. I use two layers. Bam- that 's it you have new wires on the motor.

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-- Edited on 12/13/07 0:15 AM --

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Date: 12/12/07 9:34 PM

excellent! I'll give it a shot. Thanks!

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Date: 2/14/13 3:29 PM

Hi there! I just picked up a Singer 201 and the light wouldn't work so I pulled it off the machine and all apart and discovered one of the two contacts inside the socket where the lightbulb touches was gone. I hope you know what I mean when I describe what it is that is missing. It might be called a "pin".. when you push on it, it depressed.. for when you push the light bulb in. Anyhow.. The wiring through the machine is soldered to this particular piece and I have no idea where I might get a new one or even what it is called! I was hoping you might be able to tell me :)

PS - I had never soldered until this month - I've completely re-wired 2 Singer 201 motors and it all went smoothly and the motors work/sound great!

Thank you for your time! :)

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Date: 2/14/13 8:52 PM

Check the Sew-classic site. She carries parts for the 201 and the prices are reasonable. I just ordered brushes for the 201 from that site. She has a complete light fixture for around $15. That might be easier then trying to fix the one you have.

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Date: 3/1/13 9:23 PM

I don't know about the 201 but I have a couple 15-91 machines and the dh and I re-wired the motor and controller. I can't even figure out how to get the lights apart without smashing them. I plan on ordering new lights from WWW.sew-classic.com

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Date: 3/2/13 8:14 AM

I had the same issue with my 15-91 and I also ordered a new light fixture from Sew Classic. No, it isn't an "authentic" part, but my machine isn't a collector's item so it doesn't matter.

On the flip side, I have parted out another 15-91 and the light fixture was one of the first parts I sold! (This was after I had replaced the other one, or I could have used it for my own machine.)

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