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Very full petticoat pattern needed - 1950's era
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Date: 4/21/08 2:06 AM

I want to make a very full petticoat to wear under a circle skirt. There is a nice link posted by ladybegood to what seems to be a great 1950's petticoat:

Alice Lon's petticoat pattern 1956

My question - has anyone made this up? What did you think?

Alternately, do any of you have great petticoat patterns or suggestions you would be willing to share? I am looking for a very full petticoat pattern or even a source for purchase (if the price is low enough).

Thanks in advance for any input!

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Date: 4/21/08 6:54 AM

I think the price of these is reasonable. 48 yds of 1" satin ribbon is at least half the cost of some of these pre-made petticoats, and that's without the labor of making one.

Something also seems wrong with the math for the link you posted. If there's 8 strips of 8 yds of netting to be gathered and bound, you need more than 48 yds of ribbon. 8 x 8 = 64, not 48. Plus, the petticoats in the photos don't match the instructions ... they have 3 tiers of netting, each of which is bound at the hem.

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Date: 4/21/08 9:31 AM

If all you want is the correct flounce for the period dress you are making, go to any of the pattern books in the costume section and get the pattern for "square dancing" dresses. These are the correct flounce for circa 1950 and unless I miss my quess, decidedly easier to construct since they are geared toward the masses. JF

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Subject: Very full petticoat pattern needed - 1950s era Date: 4/21/08 9:37 AM

also, when I need a lot more volume on an existing attached petticoat instantly, and don't have the time or supplies to do so, I will flip the rows of netting up and sew them toward the waistline and then also add horsehair to the edging of the rows of netting hem. This instantly makes a petticoat appear to have almost twice the volume. JF

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Date: 4/21/08 10:26 AM

Wow - love those old photos! Any place that sells square dance apparel will have crinolines similar to those in the link. They typically have cotton or nylon tricot as the top tier and some have tricot or chiffon underlining to prevent the scratchies. I sewed a lot of square dance clothes "back in the day" and most of my friends back then did, too. But nobody I knew (this is the mid - late 1970's and there were some pretty accomplished seamstresses in our clubs) attempted their own crinolines. The amount of work and the cost of materials would have been more than it was worth, as I recall. I still hate gathering...

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Date: 4/21/08 11:35 AM

I made a couple of petticoats to go under 1950s style dresses. I started with a full circle of lining material with an elastic casing at the top, finished length about 8 inches. I then gathered tiers of netting -- just jam as much fullness as possible into the tiers. Attach the tiers with a basting stitch on the sewing machine and then run the seam through the serger for a clean finish. I cut bias strips from lining, serged to the bottom edge and then stitched the seam toward the tier. Debbie is right, satin ribbon would cost more than the garment.

The best trick I learned was to use corn starch to stiffen the net --- call the customer service number on the box of Kingsford corn starch and they will give you the receipe for cooked starch. Dunk the net layers in the starch, wring them out and then lay the petticoat out on a table (with towels under it) .. shape it and let it dry. After this type of starch the pettcoat can hold up the skirt and the girl.

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Date: 4/21/08 12:17 PM

My Mum still has 2 or 3 of her 1950's crinolines. I will ask her to pull them out to check how they were made.

I do know that one has light weight cotton as the top layer with the ruffles underneath. None of them are full at the waist.

Also worth noting, is that three of the dresses that she saved from the 50's already had full layered skirts, before she put on the crinoline.

I will post later, once we have a chance to pull them out.

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Date: 4/21/08 1:30 PM

Quote: Debbie Cook
I think the price of these is reasonable. 48 yds of 1" satin ribbon is at least half the cost of some of these pre-made petticoats, and that's without the labor of making one.



Something also seems wrong with the math for the link you posted. If there's 8 strips of 8 yds of netting to be gathered and bound, you need more than 48 yds of ribbon. 8 x 8 = 64, not 48. Plus, the petticoats in the photos don't match the instructions ... they have 3 tiers of netting, each of which is bound at the hem.

Thanks for the link

Yes, the price is reasonable, but they are very short, because they are made for square dancers who wear short petticoats. The length is only 22" so the fullness will not be at the right location to poof out a 50's style circle skirt. If I could find a pre-made square dance petticoat in the proper length, I would gladly buy it.

I did look online, and I can buy a 100 yard spool of garment quality satin ribbon in the correct width for $18. Bias strips could also be used, or the edge could just be serged, since the ribbon is mainly decorative.

I think the math on the Alice Lons pattern is good? The top tier is a circle (just like the skirts they wore), the second tier uses 2 of the 8 strips (each 8 yards long), and the third and bottom tier uses the remaining 6 strips. Those 6 strips at 8 yards long = 48 yards of bottom hem on a three tier petticoat.

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Date: 4/21/08 1:39 PM

Quote: Kathi Rank
I made a couple of petticoats to go under 1950s style dresses. I started with a full circle of lining material with an elastic casing at the top, finished length about 8 inches. I then gathered tiers of netting -- just jam as much fullness as possible into the tiers. Attach the tiers with a basting stitch on the sewing machine and then run the seam through the serger for a clean finish. I cut bias strips from lining, serged to the bottom edge and then stitched the seam toward the tier. Debbie is right, satin ribbon would cost more than the garment.


This confirms the circle at the top method of construction Your bias strips method for the hem sounds like it would save money and look lovely, thanks!

I would be a little worried about the corn starch treatment. Many people are sensitive to corn starch on their skin. Did your people wear the corn starch dipped petticoats with no rash?

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Date: 4/21/08 1:40 PM

Quote: Michelle T
My Mum still has 2 or 3 of her 1950's crinolines. I will ask her to pull them out to check how they were made.

Thanks, that would be great!

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