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mandarin collar without facing
lynda828

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Date: 4/22/08 0:24 AM

I am having a hard time getting the collar on pattern 3690 simplicity to attach as it does not have a facing.

Instructions are to fold and press 1 cm over on notched edge of collar join collar together and attach unpressed side of collar then turn over the pressed edge ie over seam and top stitch .

I understand the instructions but is there a trick to get the ends of the collar to sit nicely over the body of the shirt ie the end of the collar near front neck where everyone will probably look first. I'm striving for perfection and am not getting there.

I've learn t so much from this site already and thought someone must have a trick up their sleeve - for my collar so to speak!!

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Date: 4/22/08 0:44 AM

Here's the pattern.

Try stitching the ends (the upright ends) - at the front - together with right sides together. Clip/notch the corners, then turn to the outside, which is actually the inside of the garment at this point. Then either slip stitch the collar from the inside, or stitch in the ditch, to attach the collar on the inside.

Wow, that just made me realize how hard it is to write pattern instructions. This operation is totally clear in my mind, and I have no idea if I was able to convey it in words.

HTH

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Date: 4/22/08 0:58 AM

Luckylibbet, made sense to me. I've been watching your replies and i think you do a great job explaining.

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Date: 4/22/08 1:46 AM

Thanks!

Like I said, makes perfect sense to me - until I have to explain it to someone else.

Right now I'm in process of teaching DD to sew. She wants to learn, and is an egaged student - but aaaargggghhh - sometimes I just cannot explain what I mean.

Demonstration, rather than words, works so much better for so many people. This experience has taught me in a truly visceral way that people have different learning styles. I used to think that everybody learned by reading about it, since that's the way that I learn. Now I KNOW that most people learn by hands-on experimentation. Trying to describe it in words is one of my more frustrating experiences.

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Date: 4/22/08 2:00 AM

Thanks luckylibbit

You are so right - trying to write instructions without pictures is hard work. I understand what you said though, and I think that will be easier than what I did (turning to outside and topstitching) so then I should have a nice finish on right side because it's the side that I've seamed and I'll just slip stitch on the inside which I can control a bit better. Thanks for your help sorry I took a while, had to go to the RTA for my son's learners permit so now his dad can teach him to drive!!

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Date: 4/22/08 11:32 AM

You're welcome - glad you understood!

I understand that you're on the other side of the world from me, so no apologies needed for time delay.

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