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Message Board > Beginner's Forum > What is "stay"? ( Moderated by EleanorSews)

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What is "stay"?
Sewing a prom gown
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Date: 4/29/08 9:41 PM

I purchased McCalls 5321 pattern that requires 17 or more yards of "stay". I have never heard this term used as a fabric, if it is a fabric. Or could it be some type of interfacing?

-- Edited on 4/29/08 11:02 PM --

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Subject: What is stay? Date: 4/29/08 9:45 PM

Could it be ribbon (something like grosgrain?) that is often used to create a concealed waistband inside a gown?

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Date: 4/29/08 10:02 PM

I would assume this is boning, such as one of these common boning options:
Rigilene at the Sewing Place
Covered Poly Boning at JoAnns

Other boning info:
Threads article: Boning, Not Just for Corsets
Boning options at Greenburg and Hammer
CorsetMaking.com, another source for corset boning, including precut spiral steel bones

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ETA: Corset Making link
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Date: 4/29/08 10:12 PM

This web page might be helpful. The stay fabric is discussed beginning about 2/3 down.

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Date: 4/29/08 10:13 PM

It may help if you posted the pattern maker and number or a link so we could see the dress. I suspect it is boning, but 5 yards? I would love to see your dress.

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Subject: What is stay? Date: 4/29/08 11:42 PM

It may be a firm fabric like hair canvas, that is used for the pattern piece that is underneath a draped or pleated panel so that the draped part 'stays' in place. I am in the middle of a prom dress myself and it calls for hair canvas to cut the stay. It would be good to know what is the pattern # and company of dress you are making so we can have a look at it on line.

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Date: 4/29/08 11:48 PM

Here's the link. And I admit to being confounded - Stay is listed under the fabric requirement rather than a notion. And twill tape and boning are both listed in notions, keeping them from being the mysterious stay. I don't have the pattern or else I'd look it up in more detail. Anyone else have any ideas?

ETA: under "recommended fabrics" it says Stay: Lining fabric. So whatever it is, at least you know what to use for it!
-- Edited on 4/29/08 11:51 PM --

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Date: 4/30/08 6:31 AM

Here is the answer, straight from the webpage:
"MISSES’ TOP AND SKIRT: Lined and underlined, close-fitting strapless top has boning, back closing with purchased covered buttons and loops; lined, flared, floor length skirt is tacked to stay at seams, forming drape effect and has back zipper; skirt B has purchased decorative rhinestones; skirt C has front hemline which extends to train in back.
NOTIONS: Top A - 1/2 Yd. of 1/8" Bridal Loops, Approximately Twenty 3/8" Covered Buttons and 2 Yds. of 1/4" Covered Boning; Skirt B, C - One 7" Zipper, Two Hook and Eye Closures; Skirt B - also 71/4 Yds. of 1" Wide Horse Hair and Decorative Rhinestone as Desired; Skirt C - 81/2 Yds. of 1" Wide Horse Hair.
SUGGESTED FABRICS: Top A, Skirt B, C - Peau de soie • Shantung • Taffeta • Brocade • Beaded Embroidered Dupioni; Underlining and Lining A, Lining and Stay B, C - Lining Fabrics. Additional Fabric may be needed to match stripes, plaids or one-way design fabric.
*With Nap **Without Nap ***With or Without Nap
Combinations: AA(6-8-10-12), EE(14-16-18-20) "
Without seeing the instruction sheet my guess would be the boning would be used in the bodice and the horsehair for support in the tiers in the skirt.

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Subject: What is stay? Date: 4/30/08 6:43 AM

Sounds like there is a train or bustle type feature which is tacked to the places where the seams are (and the bones or stays are inserted). So, I think that does mean that stay=bones.

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Date: 4/30/08 8:07 AM

No, can't be boning, as it says to use 'lining fabric' for the stay.

I focused on this bit

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lined, flared, floor length skirt is tacked to stay at seams, forming drape effect


It sounds like the poufy bits of the skirt are tacked underneath to what probably amounts to a regular a-line skirt constructed out of lining fabric.

BTW - gorgeous pattern! It's one that DD considered for prom this year.

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