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Margarette
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Date: 7/29/08 8:00 PM

I am having trouble with my Pfaff 2144 buttonhole. There are 2 methods on my machine, machine setting or manual, and I have tried both with the same problem. The beginning of the buttonhole - from first bartack to the bottom bartack will sew nicely. Coming back up, however, the machine will end the buttonhole prematurely. Thank you for your help (my dealer is out of business)

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Date: 7/29/08 10:08 PM

Use the balancing "buttons" on the screen. For more detailed information, look in your manual under balancing. HTH!

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Date: 7/29/08 10:15 PM

My Pfaff Smart 200C does the same thing. I can only use the straight buttonhole, not the rounded or keyhole because the 2nd part doesn't line up with the beginning part. For me, this isn't mentioned in the manual, nor could I find it addressed on the internet anywhere.

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Date: 7/30/08 7:35 AM

Don't feel like you are alone. Pfaff machines don't make the best buttonholes. I have a 7570 and I've never made a buttonhole with it that I can say I'm proud of. The left side of the buttonhole never stitches as nicely as the right side and sometimes the bar tack at the top ends up eing in the place. It will make 4 or 5 that look decent and the next one will be off. They do look better if I stitch each one twice, but still not as nice as they could. I've had my dealer test, check and adjust it several times and it is better but still not as nice as the buttonholes my old Singer 15 series machine makes with the Grist attachment.

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Date: 7/30/08 7:41 AM

Yep, if I'm going to make multiple holes or really need a nice one or specialty one (not just a waist band that will be covered by a belt or shirt...), I'll set up my Singer 201 with it's button holer and get really pretty ones. Yes, it's more trouble, but the result is worth it.

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Date: 7/30/08 7:59 AM

Not sure about the Pfaff 2144, but on my Pfaff 2020, I use the "Manual" buttonhole feature (pressing the Reverse key once after the buttonhole starts to stitch). When the machine reverses to start back up the second side of the buttonhole, it will slow down stitching as it approaches what it THINKS is the proper place to end the bartack.

Don't let it stop! Don't let it fool you!

Keep the pedal down, keep on stitching, albeit slowly, until you reach the proper starting point. Then press the Reverse button again to initiate the bar tack and complete the buttonhole.

It's the only way I've ever been able to stitch a buttonhole correctly on my Pfaff. Annoying, but efficient. I find that slipping a scrap of Solvy wash-away stabilizer between the fabric and the presser foot helps to keep both sides of the buttonhole equally neat.

Hope this helps!

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Date: 7/30/08 2:02 PM

My Pfaff (2040 or Quiltstyle) won't finish the automatic buttonholes when it gets to what should be the end of the 2nd leg. It just keeps on sewing the narrow zigzag in one spot. Does anyone have ideas as to the cause of this? I fear I am due for a trip to the dealer...

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Date: 7/30/08 2:43 PM

Sorry I'm slow to get back to this topic. If you will look in your manual on page 4-7 (section 4, page 7 of that section) you will find instructions for ''How to correct the buttonhole''. There is a ''balancing'' icon on your screen when you select a buttonhole. When you click on that icon, you will have plus and minus options to change your buttonhole. If it's short on one side, change the screen to make it match what's happening and your 2144 will automatically make the correction. You may have to experiment a little to get a feel for it but it works beautifully! You can do the same thing on decorative stitches if needed.

Here's a link to the page. I scanned it into my computer and left it large so it's a big file.
Pfaff manual page 4-7

Look at the top right side of the page in the link.

HTH!

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Date: 7/30/08 2:57 PM

I'm sorry I can't give detailed instructions for balancing on other Pfaff models but you should find the information you need in your manual. I'm guessing the procedure won't be that different from the 2144.

I disagree that Pfaff buttonholes are not good. They are but you have to prepare your fabric first. IMO, no machine makes a good buttonhole unless you use a stabilizer or interfacing in the area where you want the buttonhole. I always use a tear away stabilizer under the buttonhole area even if I interfaced that area too. Almost all fabrics benefit from additional support for buttonholes. Some fabrics require you to change the density of the stitching -- either more or less dense. Some do better with a change of zigzag width. Always practice on scrap fabric before you make a buttonhole on your garment.

For the Pfaff machines that use the sensor that inserts into the machine behind the needleplate, it is very important that you make sure it and the white sliding area of the buttonhole foot are positioned correctly for every buttonhole. It takes only a few seconds to double check those two things and it is very easy for them to move when you're moving your fabric for the next buttonhole. If the sensor and the sliding bar of the buttonhole foot are properly positioned, you will get the exact same buttonhole however many times you want it.

I used to teach the new user classes on the 7570 (the 2144 functions the same in regard to the sensor and foot) and 9 out of 10 times any problems that occurred were user error. It takes practice and a comfort level that comes with that practice to achieve good buttonholes every time but it can be done. Too many people try a couple of buttonholes and then decide the machine is no good when that's not usually the case. That's not to say there aren't times when the machine needs a technician's touch -- it happens with any machine brand. But do put time into learning the steps before you decide they don't work.

NO offense intended to anyone. I just tell it like I've seen it many many times.

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"I hate housework! You make the beds, you do the dishes--and six months later you have to start all over again!"

Pfaff 2170, Pfaff 7570, Pfaff 4852, Babylock Coverstitch, Bernina 1090, Bernina 1020, Gammill Quilting machine



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Date: 7/30/08 2:58 PM

What a great tip!

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