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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Bernina artista 165?? ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 5/5/04 8:57 AM

:blush: HELP!  Bernina owners or former owners -- I would appreciate input.  I have an opportunity to purchase a very slightly used Bernina 165 with tons of attachments, etc.  I would appreciate any recommendations quickly in this regard.  They are asking less than $2,000.

(If I can talk hubby into this!!!;)

Thanks!!

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Date: 5/5/04 9:38 AM

Debbie,  I have a 140 Patchwork Edition, which I think now equates to the 145 Quilter's maybe (?), and it is a great machine.

I have had a couple of problems:  bobbin winder tension and balance.  I can't get a nice automatic buttonhole because it sews the wrong speed going backwards on the second side of the button hole.  

No idea about whether that is a good price, but the accessories for these machines really add up.  A new foot is around $40, so those things add up quickly.  I think the walking foot was around $200.  Go by a dealership and price a few things and sew on one to make sure you like it.

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Date: 5/5/04 1:13 PM

I pretty much agree with Mary here. I have a Virtuosa 150, bought slightly used a few years ago. It's my second Bernina. I've had a problem with the tensioning spring on the bobbin case, and I don't bother using the automatic buttonhole either. But I really like it, and I would definitely buy it again. The feet ARE expensive. Check the new price, including discounts/specials a dealer would offer.

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Date: 5/5/04 2:27 PM

I have the Bernina 180E which I bought, used, from my dealer a year ago for $2500.  It had a couple of extra embroidery hoops and the ott light.  Since the previous owner upgraded to the 200E, she kept all the feet and other attachements.  I got a 1 year warrenty and free classes.

If your machine is the 165E (ie it includes the embroidery module), the price sounds right.  If it doesn't include the embroidery module, the price sounds high to me.  However, since you don't list all the feet you've got, it's hard to make the call.  Bernina feet are tres $$$.  

I have 2 berninas.  IMHO, you can't go wrong with a bernina, as long as you can afford it.

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Date: 5/5/04 2:29 PM

I have the Bernina 170, which they discontinued to make the 165. It was too close to the options on the 180, which I think is now discontinued for the 200. The 165 has a few less options than mine, but I think I paid about twice your $2,000 price five years ago. (I could be wrong about this.) I haven't had any problems with the buttonholes on mine. They're perfect and beautiful. I love making buttonholes with the attachment.  I think you should get it if you can swing the $$$. This is my second 'Nina and I wouldn't buy anything else.

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Date: 5/5/04 4:03 PM

I bought a Bernina 165E about 1.5 years ago. I absolutely love this machine. The buttonholes are perfect too -- buttonholes were a major criteria in choosing a machine. The feet mostly cost $20 to $25, but I've managed to pick up most of mine on sale. I also got the walking foot, normally $100, at a $25% off sale. That price sounds good to me. Will it come with a warranty?

The 165E also does a very nice job with embroidery although I don't do a lot of that.

I also have an old Bernina 930 and and A Bernina serger. All are fantastic machines.

Good luck whatever you decide.

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Date: 5/6/04 3:53 PM

:cry: boo hoo hoo someone else grabbed it before me so I can't get it!!!

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Date: 5/6/04 4:28 PM

Well, I guess I was wrong about the price.  I'm sorry Debbie.

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