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Message Board > Sewing Machines > For pfaff owners, how important is it for you to have the built in IDT? ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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For pfaff owners, how important is it for you to have the built in IDT?
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Date: 2/5/09 2:49 PM

I have a bundle of fine silk chiffon and antique silk velvet fabrics that I've been collecting over the years, so when searching for a machine, I felt it had to be a pfaff so I could take advantage of the built in integrated dual feed system--I ended up buying a 1222e. BUT, now after reading more reviews here on patternreview, I desperately want a Bernina 830, but sadly, no IDT.

I'm just now getting back into the groove of sewing after not sewing much more than pillowcases, etc as a kid, so I'm no expert, but I really want to have a machine that I'll love and keep forever. Do you think the bernina will do me well, even though it doesn't have the IDT?
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Date: 2/5/09 3:11 PM

I own two Pfaffs with IDT. I love it. I use it nearly all the time; the seams are always smooth and not puckered. I use it for garment sewing and quilting (piecing blocks and the actual quilting). I was chatting with a sales lady at my local Pfaff dealer about IDT. She said she always thought it was just a gimmick -- until she bought an IDT machine and sewed on it.

I sewed for many years without IDT, and obviously did OK. Maybe I don't need sewing machines with the all the bells and whistles, but I do USE a lot of those features: adjustable automatic needle up/down with automatic presser foot lift, IDT, needle position adjustments at half mm increments, touch-screen controls, etc. When I have the occasion to sew on someone else's machine I really MISS those features. Features that make sewing tasks easier or more accurate increase my overall sewing enjoyment -- and that counts, to me.

What specific features does the Bernina have that you don't have on the Pfaff? There is no Sewing Police Rule that says you can't own two machines.

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Who owns 7 sewing machines. (Does your spouse own only ONE power tool, hmm? Different tools for different tasks.)

Disclaimer: I haven't sewn on a Bernina to make a comparison between the two.

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Date: 2/5/09 3:20 PM

Well, the differences between your Pfaff1222E and a Bernina are pretty small. They are both TOL machines of their eras. I have admired that 830 also, but really - there's not so much difference. I THINK, but don't KNOW, that the 830 MAY be all metal with no nylon in the innards, but I am not sure.

If I were (and I did) going to add a machine in your situation, it would be a modern fun computerized, multi-stitch cool and groovy featured machine.

But I would still love my Pfaff! And I did and I do!

AND, you could also buy an 830 - there is no law against having two, three or more machines...cough.
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Date: 2/5/09 3:38 PM

I think it depends on your level of experience. as an absolute beginner my first machine was a pfaff 2056 and I think it just made everything a bit easier to have the idt, and other features, it encouraged me to keep trying new things, the dual feed just gave me a better result. If your an experienced sewer it might not be as important but I think if your starting out its those things that make it easier that matter.

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Date: 2/5/09 3:49 PM

I'm lucky to have one of each and I sew on my Pfaff 99.9% of the time.

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Date: 2/5/09 4:02 PM

Keep the Pfaff 1222e forever and ever. a great machine. You do realize that the machine is going want a friend or two around. I bet your 1222 would love a Bernina for a best friend.
Brenda in MI

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Date: 2/5/09 4:04 PM

When I bought my first new TOL it was a Viking #1+ I had to have a Viking, wouldn't even look at anything else I had done lots of research and at the time the #1+ was considered one of, if not the, best combo machine out.

I used that machine for the next 10+ years and swore I would ONLY own Vikings.

Until I discovered IDT and I haven't looked back!

I upgraded my Viking to a Pfaff 2170 about 2.5 years ago and while there are certain things about it that I am not fond of, other things that my Viking had that I can't believe my much newer Pfaff doesn't have...I still couldn't imagine life without IDT. lol

And for those people who say that a walking foot is just the same...I say they have never had the pleasure of using IDT! For one, I HATED using a walking foot; too slow, too loud, too cumbersome and limited stitch uses.

With the IDT I can sew with nearly any foot/stitch combo and at any speed and my seams always look perfect on every fabric, silk, bias, velvet, super long seams, curves...

I sound like an ad for IDT

I did keep my Viking, and do have a few others in the herd. Like others have said, nothing wrong with having more than one machine.

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Date: 2/5/09 4:42 PM

The new Bernina 830 does indeed have IDT but I think they call it something else. Maybe you were talking about the old vintage 830 which doesn't have IDT?? Anyway, good luck with your search!

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Date: 2/5/09 5:16 PM

have both, sew 99.99999999999999% of time on Berninas

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Date: 2/5/09 5:32 PM

WOW, the new model is $12,000...Indeed I am talking about the older model!!! LOL

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