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where to buy used pfaff 2144 or 2170
Jp9
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Date: 2/25/09 7:10 PM

Hi,

Not sure this is the correct place to post this. I would like to know if any one has reputable places to buy a used Pfaff 2144 or 2170.

Thanks

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Date: 2/25/09 7:19 PM

I see these at my local Pfaff dealer, for sale used, especially since the Pfaff Creative Vision was released.

Sewers who are upgrading to the Pfaff Creative Vision trade in their 21xx machines when they buy the Creative Vision.

The last few times I was in the Pfaff shop, there was at least one used 21xx machine for sale there.

CMC

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Date: 2/25/09 7:32 PM

Hi CMC,

Unfortunately, my local dealer does not have any. Even if they had, I suspect they would be expensive since they would mark it up for a profit. I was thinking more of private sellers, trying to avoid eBay if I can.

Thanks for the response though.
-- Edited on 2/25/09 7:51 PM --

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Date: 2/25/09 8:21 PM

Ah, I see. Too bad; I would prefer to work with a dealer, simply because they would probably give you a store warranty, and you'd have someone to service the machine and work with you if there were problems. I would assume that the machine had been serviced before I purchased it.

Does your dealer know you are looking for this model? Will he call you if one comes into the shop?

My other suggestions:

The Classifieds here on Pattern Review.

Check Craigslist for your area. You can even put up a "wanted" ad. If you buy from someone local, at least you have a chance to see the machine, test it, and perhaps take it into the dealer for a pre-sale examination, if the buyer agrees, like taking a used car to your mechanic before you purchase it.

I cruise my local Craigslist for sewing items, and top-end sewing/embroidery machines do show up for sale regularly, if you are checking everyday. I don't see a lot of them, but they do turn up. I have made a couple of sewing-related purchases through Craigslist. Because I scan it often, I had a chance to contact the seller first, and got "first dibs" as it were.

Also, you might want to try eBay. Sometimes dealers will put used machines up for sale on eBay. This would be my least preferred option, simply because you can't meet the seller face-to-face and examine the goods beforehand. It's one thing to buy a vintage machine on eBay for $200. If you get scammed, at least you haven't lost too much. I'd be much more nervous about purchasing a top-end machine on eBay and about damage during shipping.

I know some sewers have had good luck buying sewing machines on eBay, and hopefully they will comment on their experiences.

However, I'd check Craigslist, and even the want ads of your local paper first.

Other places to check would be sewing or quilting stores, to see if they allow customers to post items for sale on bulletin boards in their stores.

Good luck and happy hunting.

CMC

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Date: 2/25/09 8:43 PM

My suggestion would be to purchase this type of machine from a dealer. They will have these machines serviced prior to sale and most will offer classes to go with it. This is a great technical machine that does have a learning curve. I have an older Pfaff 1472 and still need to refer to instructions for sequencing and lettering. The 2140/2144/2170 is a great machine that does a lot, but not something you can just pick up a book skim through and learn all it's features without help. I have used the machine since it was introduced at a store I teach classes at.

The second is in regards to buying off the internet. The warranty is only available to the first purchaser (a store that sells this brand will offer it's own warranty), if you have never used a machine like this it's easy to miss signs of wear and tear or major problems. The second issue is there are scams going around where a person will offer a machine for a very cheap price. They either don't actually have the said product and have you send money by money order and dissapear. There are instances of stolen machines being sold and the purchaser will have it confiscated the minute it is brough in for service & police contacted. I have also see damaged machines or those that had been used on a commercial bases being sold "this is so and so's and I don't know anything about it but looks in great shape."

If you do want to purchase a machine privately meet the person in a public place, and test sewing and embroidery features out and take a friend with you.

Good luck and let us know how it works out.

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Date: 2/26/09 6:08 AM

Hi CMC,

Thanks for the useful information. I have looked here on classifieds, but nothing yet. I would feel very confident to buy from someone on this forum. As for Craig's List, I have never given that much thought. However, I think it is a good idea and I will look into it. Lastly, sewing shop bulletin boards are also a good idea.

Thanks for the good information.

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Date: 2/26/09 6:14 AM

Hi sew2006,

Thank you for responding. I do have the option of paying $50 per hour for my dealer to give me lessons on using the machine, even if I purchase it somewhere else. So, I do not think that issue will be a deal breaker. As for scams, yes, this is what I am concerned about. Buying from someone on this forum would me a much safer bet.

Lastly, I believe that the savings from buying privately will be greater than most repairs would cost, so I would still be ahead. Of course that depends on how much you actually saved and what the repair is.

Again, thanks.

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Date: 2/26/09 7:36 AM

I know of a lady, she is a customer in the sewing shop where I work who is looking to sell her 2144 which has been upgraded to 2170 with software and jumbo hoop. I can ask her to give me permission for you to contact her direct if you are interested.

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Date: 2/26/09 9:07 AM

Hi Quilt2Quilt,

Thanks for the response. This is exactly the type of transaction I am looking for. Depending on the specifics of the machine and the price, I would be very much interested. Ask her next time you see her and she if she would not mind contacting me, or I can contact her.

Thank you very much.
-- Edited on 2/26/09 9:08 AM --

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Date: 2/27/09 3:40 PM

Hi Quilt2Quilt,

I think I have found a 2170 that has not been used at all for a good price. Just wanted to tell you so you did not waste your time trying to see what the lady at your store wanted to do.

Thank you for your effort though.

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