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Split waistband - what is it? and tummy panel to slim
Annette Wright KS USA Member since 10/22/08 Posts: 1032	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 3/3/09 8:57 AM I had an ad in my email from Christopher Banks (a women's clothes store with nice casual fashion.) Pants with split waist and tummy panel Does anyone know the purpose of this split waistband, and if there is a technique out there for it? I will probably go to the store and look at it myself. Also, so many pants these days have a stretchy panel that is supposed to slim your tummy. Have you made one yourself in your own pants? I don't have a pair of pants to copy the idea from. I'm thinking a stretchy swimsuit spandex would work. -- Edited on 3/3/09 8:58 AM -- ------ Annette http://needlesnails.blogspot.com/
anwen Beginner UNITED KINGDOM Member since 1/6/08 Posts: 96	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 3/3/09 2:27 PM It looks like the split waistband is a design feature, the band seems to be made up of two strips (horizontally, like), it looks nice, I don't know if it necessarily has any function per se. I definitely saw something in one of my sewing magazines about putting in a tummy panel, will see if I can find it...
mmmckay Intermediate UT USA Member since 7/24/08 Posts: 828	Login to reply to this post In reply to Annette Wright Like this post Subject: Split waistband - what is it? (and tummy panel) Date: 3/14/09 10:54 PM I'm bumping this because I want to hear more about tummy panels! I have a couple pairs of pants with so-called tummy control in them. They both have a fly front, and the control panel is just the woven pocket material extending from the pockets to the center front and sewn into the fly. One works ok, and one is basically useless, because they curved the pockets up toward the fly too much, so there is only about 2 inches of coverage where the panel meets the fly. I think if you only need 2 inches of panel, you probably don't need one at all! :) I was thinking of trying this myself, maybe with powernet (I don't think regular lycra would do much shaping - all the 'shaping' swimsuits have powernet, etc. in them). I recently ordered Jalie 2561 in part because it has pockets that extend to the fly (though this sounds like a pretty easy adaptation if you have a TNT pattern). I'd love to hear any advice on putting these panels in - especially in skirts or dresses that are fitted at the waist/hips but do not have a center fly or seam. I'd love a little smoothing in the front without having to resort to restrictive and hot undergarments. Anyone tackled this before?
diane s Intermediate OR USA Member since 8/24/02 Posts: 3887	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 3/16/09 4:11 PM A traditonal split waistband is what's used in mens pants so the waist can be easily altered from the center back. ------ My grandmother taught me to sew when I was 10, and I've been sewing ever since.
solosmocker Advanced NY USA Member since 1/23/06 Posts: 1265	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 4/14/09 10:14 PM I have made pants with the tummy panel and they are delightful to wear. I used the information in Sandra Betzina's Power Sewing book. My pants were a fly front with slanted side pockets. The panel connected from the pocket edge and over into the fly. You zipped them up and it was like putting on a girdle but totally comfortable and with no sign of the pants being tight. ------ http://lasewist.blogspot.com/
Kathi R   Intermediate USA Member since 2/28/05 Posts: 2052 PR Weekend Volunteer	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 4/14/09 10:29 PM Debbie Cook has a tutorial on her blog on how she extends the pocket lining into the fly...very clear instructions. The Simplicity perfect fit pants have a split WB. I think it gives you more control over pants alterations - tailors have been doing it for years with mens pants and there is a good reason! ------ 2012 : starting stash 386, net additions 206, used 164, ending stash 428
goldesdottar OR USA Member since 3/29/08 Posts: 160	Login to reply to this post In reply to Annette Wright Like this post Date: 4/14/09 11:30 PM Just for clarity, the split is a vertical seam in the center of the back of the waistband. When a tailor makes an alteration at the waist, for a larger or smaller waist, it is incredibly simpler to alter at the center back waist alone, especially given that men's pants always have a center front opening, and often have front pockets that run to & end in the side seam. It's great for fitting in pants with a back yoke. Obviously, for women's usage, you would have to decide on a side or front opening. Most men's trousers & jeans patterns have instructions detailing this waistband installation, and KwikSew always seems to have clear instructions. ------ Do not fear; what is real, is eternal and cannot be destroyed. What is not real, does not exist and never can..therefore, what is there to fear?
OP Gal Intermediate KS USA Member since 10/14/03 Posts: 2544	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 4/15/09 12:25 PM I've always wondered about that alteration. Wouldn't taking fabric out of the center back move the side seams back? Also, I would think it would be more of a problem for a woman than a man, since women curve out under the waist and men are relatively straight. ------ a/k/a Sondra If I sewed any slower, I wouldn't be sewing at all. -- Kellie R.
goldesdottar OR USA Member since 3/29/08 Posts: 160	Login to reply to this post In reply to OP Gal Like this post Date: 4/15/09 4:55 PM Yeah, (though it's been a LONG time since i had to alter anything to get it smaller )- that may be one reason the split waistband is less often encountered in women's pants & skirts. But it is useful for getting a back-yoked garment to fit, especially if the waistband is contoured; it takes some adjustment to the back yoke pieces, but can make it easier if one has a waist-to-hip size difference greater than normal, and a rounded bottom - this isn't easy by any route, but i do find it better than just using darts to control the shaping. ------ Do not fear; what is real, is eternal and cannot be destroyed. What is not real, does not exist and never can..therefore, what is there to fear?
Annette Wright KS USA Member since 10/22/08 Posts: 1032	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 4/15/09 10:49 PM This was a different type of split waistband. The image link doesn't work anymore. There was a horizontal "split" or seam throughout the entire length of the waistband, I was able to see it in the photo, though I never went into the store to check it out. It wasn't the same as the seamed waistband in mens' pants for easy alterations. ------ Annette http://needlesnails.blogspot.com/

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