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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Janome 6600p vs Pfaff Quilt Expression 4 ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Janome 6600p vs Pfaff Quilt Expression 4
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Date: 6/5/09 8:01 PM

I am looking for a new machine - my old Elna died rather dramatically and can't be repaired and I am pretty desperate. Since I had the Elna for at least 15 years - probably 20 (I'm afraid to figure it out!) I know that I want to buy the best I can afford because I want reliability and lots of options. I sew clothing, home dec including slip covers with very thick crossing seams, purses and do some fm embroidery on my purses. Thought a bit about trying "fiber art" type of quilts, though I am not a quilter per se. I had a walking foot for my Elna and used it a lot.
These two machines interest me for their even feed capabilities even though the Janome has no free arm which I may (?) miss plus of course they have tons of other options that my older model computerized Elna didn't have.
I have read lots of reviews - seen some less than stellar ones for the Pfaff, though I still plan to try it out for myself. I am interested in reading reviews from people who use these machines less for quilting and more for the types of sewing I do. If there is anybody out there who has that kind of experience and thinks there are things I need to consider please let me know.

I thought I might also look at the BL Quest and the Elna 6300(?). I could look at a Husky but no idea which one. I have a BL Imagine serger and a Janome Coverpro so am used to working with different machines but the easier to learn, adjust, use the nicer of course.
Thanks for anything you can contribute.

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Date: 6/5/09 8:38 PM

One thing to consider about the Pfaff's and the Viking Sapphire's is that they are not very heavy duty. I would think that purses would be out. I could not have done them on my Sapphire 850. The Quest is pretty much a free arm version of the 6600. People like both it would seem. They are heavy duty machines that can sew through anything and sew fast also. I had an older Pfaff - a 2042 and I loved it but it was much better made than the current ones and yet it could not do a nice satin edge on a fabric postcard. Just take lots of samples of the thick seams, etc.
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Date: 6/5/09 8:47 PM

The Quest and the Janome may look alike but they are very different. I think the Quest is heavier and it does have a free arm. Also, the dual feeds are very different. Quest is built in like the pfaff and can be used with most of the stitches. To engage or disengage, you just pull down the IDT or put it back up. I am pretty sure that with the janome you need to change the foot. Check this out though. You can go in reverse from a stop now with the Quest plus. Also, it has a vertical bobbin you load from the front of the machine. It is very heavy duty and quite easy to learn to use. Check the manual on the tie off button.

I am not sure of the different number of stitches but the Quest has no problem going over heavy seams. It has beautiful stitches, which the Janome does as well, and alphabets. It comes with the quilting table and knee lift. It has a seperate bobbin winder so you can wind the bobbin without unthreading the machine. A feature it does not have is no cutter and no low bobbin indicator. It comes with a lot of feet and the promotion of the extra 9 feet with the plus gives you all the feet you need. It has a 8 mm stitch and you can adjust the length and widths by quite a bit.

I would definitely check out the quest. They are giving some really good deals on them right now.
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Date: 6/6/09 5:18 PM

Thanks Jannie - that's a lot of good info about the Quest. I will definitely give it a try. I don't know if there are any deals happening here in Canada but the store I normally deal with is pretty good about giving extras. The difference in price between Canada and the States for all the machines is quite painful actually, but I want to be able to have fast and local servicing so I pretty much have to take what I can get.

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Date: 6/11/09 5:57 AM

I just purchased the Pfaff QE4 to add to my small 'stable' of sewing machines (but never to replace my Pfaff 1222E, of course!). I do a lot of garment as well as quilt sewing. I haven't had sufficient time to get acquainted with my QE4, le sigh. The end of the school year is getting right in the way... But I urge you to try the Pfaff. The throat plate is built for the 9mm stitch, so I suggest that you buy the single needle plate for your garment sewing (that'd probably be good advice for any of the embroidery type machines, I suspect). The Integrated Dual Feed feature on the Pfaff is what sold me 28 years ago on my 1222E, and I've never regretted it nor strayed from it.

A good dealer is key, I'm sure you know that. Take all the classes your dealer offers. They'll help you through the learning curve

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Date: 6/11/09 8:17 AM

I would try both machines and see what you like. I have a creative vision and just finished sewing cushions for my patio furniture with heavy water resistant canvas. Have to say that with a topstitch needle, I didn't have any difficulty with closing the final seams - four layers plus the cushion end. I haven't sewn fleece with it - I just wouldn't assume that it isn't powerful enough to penetrate the layers. I would ask the dealer to demonstrate thick fabrics and then try yourself. The 6600 is a great machine - I just happen to like the 9mm stitches. Take your time and explore the features you want.

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