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PMB v Lutterloh v My Label
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Date: 12/18/09 7:27 PM

I'm thinking of investing in one of these some time early next year. I've done a search but could not find any discussion on comparisons of these three. I know Lutterloh is a completely different system to the other 2. I'm just wanting a good fit for myself and family members. I'd love to hear from anyone who has experience with at least 2 of these so that you were able to compare. I want to know the pros and cons of of them. At the moment, I'm really keen on buying the Lutterloh system but I want to explore all avenues before I buy.

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Date: 12/18/09 10:40 PM

I use PMB - its for women. Like it very much. Also have TailorMade by the same vendor...Wild Ginger.

Very happy with the product and customer support.

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Date: 12/19/09 9:02 AM

I don't think you can compare Lutterloh to the other two you are considering. I have PMB and Lutterloh, and since one is a software program, it is miles apart from Lutterloh. There are few designs for men and kids, so if that's important to you, keep that in mind.

Any software program is only going to be as good as the measurements you enter - so those will be critical for your success. PMB also has a CAD editor, so you can really design whatever you're after. This program is primarily for adult women. I do enjoy using this - patterns/designs are pretty much unlimited. Tech support is excellent, and there is a very active users' forum. The Wild Ginger folks also have a program specifically for kids - Child Play - and one for men - TailorMade.

I used the Lutterloh system this last summer for capris and some woven tops - loved it. I didn't have to do any FBAs, and the pants fit beautifully. (I am RTW size 14.) That being said, it will draft patterns, and draft them well, but you may still have to make alterations just as you would with any paper pattern. New designs are published every few months (I think 3), and can be purchased for a reasonable fee. There are few designs for men and kids, so if that's important to you, keep that in mind.

I do not have My Label - but do recall reading that you are limited on patterns, and it is quite spendy.

Good luck!

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Date: 12/19/09 10:25 AM

I bought both BML and PMB purely to get garments that fit- I had not been able to figure out my own fitting adjustments until I used the software. For me, BML worked better. I suspect that has to do with my fitting needs- yours will be different.

For example, I have heard that PMB works better for people with larger busts, and the smaller-busted women have a little more trouble getting a good fit. (Hopefully more people will chime in on that issue- it did not affect me)

I have not tried Lutterloh- I was afraid it would not address my shoulders.

Bernina My Label is/was wonderful for me. It gave me patterns that fit in my shoulders and it gave me pants that fit well, too. At this point I use my BML basic patterns over and over so I rarely even use the software any more. Once I printed out my basic patterns, I just use them over and over.
I have figured out how to use my basic patterns in conjunction with BWOF, Vogue, Jalie, Christine Jonson, etc. Finally I can sew the styles I like.

If I knew then what I know now, I suppose I could have had the same success with PMB. I just found the BML more intuitive to use; with very good results right off the bat. I have used PMB to sew costumes for the kids with good results. BML would not have worked for costumes at all. PMB has so many more design options.

In retrospect, the money I spent on pattern software was worth every penny. It saves me a lot of time and frustration over fitting issues.
But I really think it's mostly due to the difficulty of fitting my own shoulders.

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Date: 12/19/09 11:12 AM

PMB works well for large and small busted women.

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Date: 12/19/09 4:19 PM

Thanks for your input folks. I appreciate you all taking the time.

At the moment, I can only afford to consider one. I'm just hoping to make the best possible decision with which option that will actually be. I'm still not sure.

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Date: 12/20/09 1:42 PM

Have you downloaded the trials of PMB? I know that you can't print, but you can get a good idea of how it works. There are also the 'Click & Sew' programs, which are more limited, but would give you experience before paying the full price.
Lutterloh can often be purchased from eBay. It would be possible to print the end of the Lutterloh ruler, attach it to card and onto a tape for use with a purchased set. I believe that it is possible to buy the Lutterloh ruler in the US from one stockist.
I use PMB and Lutterloh as the fancy takes me, but I wouldn't recommend one over another, they are very different systems.
Sue

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Date: 12/22/09 11:22 AM

I received PMB as a gift last Christmas. It is definitely not the magical solution to my fitting problems that I thought it would be. I need some fitting adjustments beyond just changing measurements (such as a flat seat adjustment on pants), and it is much easier for me to just make the adjustments to a paper pattern than to figure out the "CAD" pattern editor portion of the program. Fitting adjustments are not automatic - you need to actually know how to adjust the shape of the pattern, and you need to figure out how to do that in the clunky Pattern Editor.

I know a lot of people have had success with PMB, but my opinion is that there is a lot of room for improvement. They do have ok customer service, if you are willing to invest the time. You can also pay to take a class, which I refuse to do on principle - I think the software should be straightforward enough for a computer-literate person to use out of the box. For me, sewing time is precious, so I am still using commercial patterns. I made a couple of pant muslins with PMB but was not able to come up with a pair of pants that turned out any better than a commercial pattern.

I can't speak to Lutterloh or Bernina My Label. Lutterloh is intriguing to me, though.

I think if I had it to do over again, my time would have been better spent fitting a couple of basic commercial patterns and learning to "frankenpattern" to get the design details I want. That's pretty much where I am now, although I am going to give PMB a shot for drafting some tops which may be easier to fit than pants.
-- Edited on 12/23/09 1:45 PM --

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Date: 12/23/09 9:45 AM

Well, I'll throw in my two cents here. I purchased PMB a long time ago and have Lutterloh as well, and you're right--Lutterloh is different from the other two, for the obvious reasons. You might not know it, but it's also drafted with the European cut; meaning the crotch curve on the pants is different from PMB. It took me a while to figure this out, but once I did, I found I liked Lutterloh better.

The Lutterloh system I find is less expensive than the full PMB; even with the supplements. I used to have PMB but no longer do. I really didn't like having to tape the pieces of paper together, thereby creating more room for error. And printer paper (and ink) can get expensive.

Not much of two cents, but maybe enough to help.

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Date: 12/23/09 10:09 AM

I use Lutterlow and like it. No learning curve, just follow the directions - and read the Lutterloh thread here!

I had PMB and could not master the learning curve, and at the time support was NOT good. I sold it here on PR, also glad not to have to tape. pattern. pieces. together.
-- Edited on 12/23/09 10:11 AM --

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