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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Oil-type? 3n1, other; Other misc questions. ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 2/13/10 4:21 AM

What oils can be used?
Recent synthetics? 3n1?
Are there any non-toxic oils?

Any links to "how to oil your machine"?

Is deal-spotting permitted on these forums?

Thanks.

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Date: 2/13/10 9:34 AM

The amount of oil needed on a new machine is so minimal I always use a good clear mineral oil, sewing machine oil. WD isn't true oil and does not give you the same results. I don't know anything about synthetics for a machine but one bottle of my Madeira mineral oil will last me a lifetime and then after. Most machines are made with oil impregnated metal and don't require the same oiling older machines did. Also with the computer and electronics you have to be a lot more careful. On older machines the rule of thumb was to oil all moving parts, keep gears clean from "old" grease and reapply new grease to them (not oil) if needed. Which synthetics are you looking at and for what reason?.....just curious to understand your question better

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Date: 2/13/10 10:08 AM

It depends on your sewing machine! Have you an old Singer that needs lubing? Have you a new machine that needs one drop of oil maybe once a year or twice? Tell us the machine and you'll get specific information. Even machines from the 70s sometimes cannot be lubed and/or oiled well at home. Some are simple to oil and/or lube. Unless your manual tells you to, restrain yourself from oiling until you know.

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Date: 2/13/10 2:10 PM

Little tubes of oil come with most new machines and sergers today. These new machines usually only require about one drop of oil from time to time and are enclosed units. The same with my sergers.
I do have a bottle of Singer oil that I purchased either at Hancocks or Joanns for a New Home serger that I had that required oil in many places quite frequently. I also used it for a machine that I gave to one of my DD's that requires oiling and cleaning often.
I had an old tube of Singer lube that I used under my old Singer but I think I might just throw it out because I don't lubricate my present machines.

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Date: 2/13/10 3:21 PM

I bought a bottle of Zoom Spout Sewing Machine Oiler from my sm tech. It wasn't very much--I'm thinking $3.50, but for sure less than $6.
What sold me on it is the LONG (7''), flexible pull-out tube used to reach those hard-to-reach spots. I saw him use it and said ''Where can I get that?''
It says on the bottle ''Stainless, All-Purpose, High Quality Oil'' and it is clear, which is something I've read somewhere is important.
At 4 Fl Oz it will last me a lifetime.

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Date: 2/13/10 3:36 PM

Sewing Machine oil is always the best.

The old vintage mechanical machines can take Tri-Flow, which is used in bicycles.

NEVER 3-in-1 oil. Ever.

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Date: 2/13/10 3:38 PM

Yes, those spout type tubes or bottles come with some machines and sergers. I have a couple of them and the longest tube like one, I believe came with one of my sergers. I just refill them when needed.

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Date: 2/13/10 8:12 PM

I'm curious that everyone here says you shouldn't oil very often - my new (although admittedly VERY inexpensive) machine says in the manual to oil once a week if you use the machine less than an hour each day, and if you use it more than an hour each day to oil daily. I've only oiled it once, and I KNOW it is overdue. It's a pain though, you have to unscrew the case to oil it (it doesn't have the hinge like most).

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Date: 2/13/10 10:54 PM

Thanks for the thoughtful replies.

I am thinking: Mostly Metal Machines with no computers.
I have access to Dressmaker aluminum body, metal parts(?),
various stitches, free arm, will find model # later. Dressmaker
does work but barely.

I would like to get a

heavy stitcher: Singer 99 or old Pfaff 130, 260 etc.
ordinary stitcher: Singer 201, or Brother or Kenmore
Fancy stitcher: some Elna, Viking,Necchi, and Pfaff.
Elna, Necchi, and Pfaff have a few plastic or bakalite parts,
which I would still consider; but this would be the subject of
a whole new thread. And I know some of these machines
overlap in function.

As to lubricants, I am thinking of reviving and sustaining old machines,
for use in actual sewing. Since advances have been made in synthetic
motor oils, I just asked about "synthetics", nothing particular in mind.

Actually, I would prefer non-toxic oils or grease, where I can.
Good Luck, eh. Mineral Oil might work, as suggested.

Some machines on craigslist are "frozen"; would WD 40 be good
for this or something else. Should I just pass these up, for now?

-- Edited on 2/13/10 11:05 PM --
-- Edited on 2/13/10 11:35 PM --

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Date: 2/13/10 11:32 PM

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Some machines on craigslist are "frozen"; would WD 40 be good

for this or something else.

You'll find a wealth of information at Needlebar web site, and Yahoo Groups like WeFixIt and for vintage machines. Those folks know how to do that, all the tricks, etc.
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