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Can someone help me figure out how to do this stitch?
It's pictured on my sewing machine but I can't figure it out. Pic included (Kenmore model 16528)
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Date: 4/13/10 9:41 PM

Hi all, I am new to this forum and to sewing! Infact, I got this sewing machine probably around 2002 as a gift. It was sealed in the box until 2 days ago. There are different stitches pictured on the machine.

The one I can't figure out is the first one on the bottom. (If the pic doesn't show up in this post, the picture is uploaded in my photo album). All the other stitches are shown in the instruction book, but this one. It doesn't even mention it. I don't know if it's an error in their book, or something is wrong with the machine, or I am doing it wrong, or it needs a certain foot that didn't come with the machine.

If someone can tell me which foot I need for this, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance!


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Date: 4/13/10 9:57 PM

It seems to me that the red stitches are the regular stitches and the black stitches are the stretch stitches. I have never used this model but I would say that you need to find the stretch stitch setting on your machine then dial to the red stitch that is above the black stitch that you wish to have. When the machine is set to stretch then the black stitch will appear instead of the red stitch.

On some machines the stretch setting is on the stitch length dial or lever. The stretch stitches stitch both forward and reverse and it is usually not recommended to try to use reverse when using these stretch stitches.
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Date: 4/14/10 7:23 AM

Hi, Thanks for the reply!
Yes, it's a stretch stitch and I do put it on the stretch setting. There are 32 stitches (14 are stretch stitches) and this particular stitch is the only stitch that does't work, and the only stitch that is not mentioned in the instruction book.

If anyone has this model, it's actually pictured gold color on the machine not black. I took the pic with my cell phone so it didn't come out good, lol


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Date: 4/14/10 7:31 AM

I had a student who has a Kenmore and she was curious about these stitches. I take it you can do the other brown/black/gold stitches? Then you've pretty well figured out the book and maybe your book is a generic one; for two different models and you happen to have the wrong one.

If you can't do any of the brown/black/gold stitches, which are stretch stitches, then that's a horse of a different color. If I'm not mistaken, there are levers at the top of your machine, correct? I understand one of these levers has to be all the way to one side. If you will post a photo of the front of your machine, I can better help you.

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Date: 4/14/10 10:42 AM

When you say the stitch does not work, what do you mean? How does it look?

Are the stitches too far apart? Which would indicate you need to adjust your stitch length or width.

Are you getting tunneling, the fabric in the middle is bunching up a bit? You could try some sort of stabilizer underneath. The paper from an adding machine may work.

As far as which foot to use, I would either use the F foot, or an overcast foot.

You may also find going slower while doing this stitch may help. There is a lot of back and forth as well as side to side that takes time.

Lastly, although I did use this stitch a few times before I got my serger to overcast seams, I found the one beside it to much more useful when sewing knits.

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Date: 4/14/10 2:48 PM

I have the Kenmore 16231, and from your pic it looks like your machine has about the same type of stitches as mine - they are in the same order as on mine, too. After reading your post, I checked my manual and it doesn't mention this stitch either. I never noticed that before since I rarely use the stretch stitches.

As Michelle asked, what happens when you try to sew this stitch? I tried it out on mine and it does do the stitch. At the recommended setting it makes a very scant 1/8th inch wide smocking type stitch with a straight stitch on the left - just like the pic but really tiny. I can only see using this as a decorative stitch as it is much too small to be used as a combo stretch and overcast knit stitch. In my opinion, if your machine isn't making this stitch, you're not missing much!

ETA: I used a zigzag foot to try out the stitch.
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Date: 4/14/10 6:06 PM

Thanks so much for the replies everyone!

Josephine, and everyone, I went and did the stich using the zigzag foot. I also tried the satin foot but it didn't do anything different. Thread tension was at 4 (which I just always keep) and kept the recommended width setting at 6.5 and it's on the stretch setting. I took a pic of the stitch how it came out. This is the underside which looks like a bunch of the letter Y. At the bottom of each "Y" it looks like a tiny hoop. The side that was upright came out looking like VVVVV. Sorry about the bad picture. I tried to take a picture of the machine, but it was coming out too tiny to see everything. I only have the camera on my cell




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Date: 4/14/10 7:12 PM

Well, that is surely not the way that stitch is supposed to be. Also, Josephine posted that when using this stitch on her machine it was very tiny. Is there a stitch balance on the machine? If so maybe it needs to be adjusted. Can you adjust the width on this stitch? I know on my different model computerized Kenmore I can adjust the width and length of the stitch and it does come out looking as it is supposed to. Maybe your machine needs just a little adjustment with the stitch balance.

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Date: 4/14/10 8:38 PM

Oh duh! After reading Betakin's post I went back to check my stitch sample - and it is indeed recommended to be used with a 6.5 width! I had read it to be a 2. I retried the stitch and it still didn't look quite like your 2nd pic, though. I can't make out the straight stitch along the side in your sample, but I believe they ''are'' the same stitch. Also, I'm still thinking I wouldn't actually use this on a knit; I've found a tiny zigzag to work best for knits (if I'm not serging them).

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Date: 4/14/10 10:59 PM

I, too, have a 16231 and that stitch is not in my manual either. Like Josephine, I tried the stitch with the SS and 6.5 settings and the stitch turned out somewhat like it looks on the SM stitch pic. The zig-zaggy part was ok but the straight stitch line down the left side were tiny, spaced stitches and not a line. The underside was a loopy "y". Maybe it's not meant to be a usable stitch on our machines - maybe we share the same housing or stitch panel display as several other Kenmores and one of the others has this stitch. Anyway, that's my best guess. This certainly is an interesting catch on your part - I never noticed it wasn't in the book! Makes me wonder what else I haven't noticed.

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