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Fitting Jalie Jeans Frowns at front crotch
oliveoyl45   Intermediate ON CANADA Member since 11/22/06 Posts: 4	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 4/29/10 7:27 AM Hi I need some help fitting the Jalie jeans. I love everything about them except that I'm getting some frowns at the front crotch. Here is a picture that shows what I'm talking about. Picture of Problem How do I fix this? Michelle -- Edited on 4/29/10 7:28 AM --
Debbie Cook USA Member since 4/11/02 Posts: 9587	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 4/29/10 8:56 AM Those aren't really frowns, since the "wrinkles" are horizontal. But these are tight fitting jeans. That's what they do. ------ -- "I base my fashion sense on what doesn't itch." — Gilda Radner http://stitchesandseams.blogspot.com
Deepika   Intermediate MA USA Member since 11/28/01 Posts: 10910 Founder	Login to reply to this post In reply to oliveoyl45 Like this post Date: 4/29/10 9:02 AM Michelle, I get this in my RTW jeans too and much more than what your photos shows. I think if you'll read all the Jalie 2908 reviews you'll see its there. Now how to remove it, I took a jeans workshop from Jennifer Stern (coming soon on PR!) and she said that it depends on your waist to hip ratio. And altering the waistline curve will sometimes fix this problem. I haven't tried it yet but it could work. However, with wrinkles that minimal, I wouldn't worry about it. I think sometimes we tend to over fit. I love the color of your denim and your top stitching is so nice. ------ - Deepika Founder, PatternReview.com Blog: http://www.deepikablogs.com
RadarRadiance Intermediate NV USA Member since 10/24/07 Posts: 1259	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 4/29/10 10:42 AM I am getting ready to try the Jalie Jean pattern and never used this sizing before. Patterns all run so different. I picked up a stretch denim from Wal-Mart, doesn't have the contents and am wondering if everyone used their true hip measurement or did you go 1 size larger or smaller? For hip measurement, it is the fullest part of your hip? Doesn't matter where on your shape as long as it is the fullest? I measure 38 inches so am thinking I need to cut the size T, my waist is much smaller than the size T but that shouldn't matter? I have done jeans with the big 4 patterns but never tried a Jalie and really want them to turn out
RadarRadiance Intermediate NV USA Member since 10/24/07 Posts: 1259	Login to reply to this post In reply to oliveoyl45 Like this post Date: 4/29/10 2:33 PM Michelle, they look very nice on you. I've been looking at many of the Jalie jeans and most of them do have the "smile" lines. They look great, hopefully comfortable. Did you use the same hip measurement to size pattern or did you go different? Many of the reviews say what size pattern they used but not their full hip measurement. I will be cutting mine out this weekend
Susee Intermediate Member since 10/23/08 Posts: 427	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 4/29/10 3:10 PM I think your jeans look great, and like everyone else said, I wouldn't worry about those little lines. I have the same lines on some of my very expensive jeans. I wonder also, if there might be differences depending on the amount of stretch in the fabric. In other words, would a stretchier denim hug the body more closely, making the lines less noticeable. At any rate, I still don't think you need be too concerned. You got a really nice fit. RadarRadiance, I plan to cut out the Jalie jeans this weekend also, and I'm having the same sizing dilemma. My hips are also a 38, but my waistline is an inch smaller than indicated for a size T. I think I may just end up making a quick muslin, if I can find a dispensable fabric in my stash with the right amount of stretch. I've never made a Jalie pattern before, so I have no experience with their sizing. ------ Susie Bernina 930, Lady Kenmore 89, Janome 300E, Juki MO-735, Janome 1000CP, Kenmore 19606, Janome Hello Kitty
oliveoyl45   Intermediate ON CANADA Member since 11/22/06 Posts: 4	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 4/29/10 3:59 PM Thanks everyone for the responses for my post and for the compliments on my jeans. Before posting I thought that I could just live with the lines but thought I might see if there was anything I could do about them. I agree that they are very minimal and I'll just leave the pattern as it is. About the Jalie size I used in comparison to my measurements: My measurements are: waist 27" full hip 39 1/2". I used Jalie size T, which according to the size chart fits someone with 29" waist and 38" hip. I went with the size at the time because I used to have a 38" hip measurement and often still use that measurement when picking pattern sizes (even though I shouldn't, explanation: denile). However, size T worked fine for me. But I should mention that the denim I used had a lot of stretch, I think the fabric had 5% lycra. Hope this helps. Oh I forgot to mention that I lowered the waist by 1 1/2" (and I started with the low waist version). -- Edited on 4/29/10 4:02 PM --
RadarRadiance Intermediate NV USA Member since 10/24/07 Posts: 1259	Login to reply to this post In reply to Susee Like this post Date: 4/29/10 4:03 PM I am going to use the denim and just go with it. Hopefully it will be right and I'm going to do the low rise because I am also 5'3" and most waists come up too high on me. I have to laugh, same hip, same height, I have a 930 Bernina, did have the 19606 but own 2 other Kenmore machines and my favorite serger is a Juki For my local ASG group we are doing denim, myself and another lady get to present it so I thought this would be a good opportunity to brush up on techniques! I've made jeans and jean jackets through the years for whole family but have only used snaps on the waistbands and jackets, I want to use rivets and the jean button on these. I'm anxious to try out this pattern, I love all the great reviews its got, it will be my first Jalie!
RadarRadiance Intermediate NV USA Member since 10/24/07 Posts: 1259	Login to reply to this post In reply to oliveoyl45 Like this post Date: 4/29/10 4:12 PM Thank you so much for the information, it will be a big help! I like that you said you lowered yours, I think the standard low rise will be perfect for me then!!!! Also will double check on the stretch of my material and see if I do want to go smaller than a T. I KNOW what you mean about that denile sizing thing I keep thinking I have this 20 year old body, heck I'd even be happy with 30 or 40 when I buy patterns! Yah right!!!!!
fattyboomboom Intermediate USA Member since 2/10/09 Posts: 142	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 4/29/10 5:20 PM Oliveoyl, your jeans look fabulous. Those wrinkles are minimal, and I think they are standard for close-fitting jeans. Congratulations on your project! Radar, I've made the Jalie jeans three times, and I'm still not 100% certain which size to pick. I think the amount of stretch in your denim makes all the difference. My measurements are 28" waist and 37" hip. First I made size S in nonstretch denim, and it fit perfectly. Then I made size S in stretch denim, and it was way too big before alterations. Most recently, I made size R in stretch denim, and it was still too big. Note that size R is for a 36" hip measurement, and I took in the side seams. Ultimately, I think it's all about the fabric. The last pair had the denim with the most stretch (2% lycra). My advice would be to choose a size based on your hip measurement, baste the inseams and outseams, and fit as you go. Take notes on your alterations because you might want to make them again. (I might be addicted to this pattern--can you tell?) ------ www.stylememary.blogspot.com

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