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Message Board > Sergers, Coverstitch and Blindhemmers > Elna 925 dcx ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

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Date: 8/31/10 4:04 PM

Has anyone else had the needle shaft break on this machine? Certainly a significant design flaw in my opinion. It's in for repair, although I was tempted to find a local welder...

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Date: 8/31/10 6:39 PM

Yes, I have had the needle bar replaced twice. The first time it was around two years after I had bought it. The bar had come loose and had fallen off. I made the mistake of putting it back on incorrectly. When I went to push up the needle holder, I actually broke the whole thing off. It cost about $200 to replace it. About three years later the needle bar broke off again and it took about 2 weeks for the dealer to get the part. The charge was about the same. It has been working okay for the past 4 years. Maybe I was at fault for trying to push it up when the needle bar wasn't in the right possition before moving it. I really don't know. The last time the needle bar had broken, other people wrote about the problem on this board. Harriet

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Date: 8/31/10 9:47 PM

Wow, it broke twice for you. I have seen only 2 complaints on line over the years where the tilt needle clamps on the Elnas have had problems till this thread and now one person had it break 2 times.

I have been very careful with my Elna 744 over the years when using the tilt needle clamp. First having to align the triangles on the fly wheel then lowering the presser foot, then making sure the clamp is up and the upper looper is not in front of any needle postion, swinging the safety lever down and to the right and pressing the red button to swing the clamp up and then remembering to put everything back into postions when done.
I don't have much strength in my hands when swinging that clamp but I often thought if I did that it might snap. I also thought that if not following just "one" of the preliminary steps before tilting the needle clamp that it could break.
I do really love the tilt needle feature though..it makes changing needles between the 5 different needle postions a breeze.
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Date: 8/31/10 10:27 PM

I find the needle positions really confusing and I am never quite sure whether I am putting them in the right place. Fortunately I did a nice edging on my granddaughter's flower girl dress, many layers and about 30 yards of edging. I am so glad it decided to break after that was finished.

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Date: 9/1/10 2:39 AM

That's great that you got your project finished before your serger broke.
Do you have a video for your serger or does the manual not show the different needle positions for all the stitches? I think that the needle positions on your Elna might be different than the positions on my Elna being that my Coverlock is only a 4 thread. On mine the 2 needle positions in the rear are for the different over lock stitches and the 3 needle positions that run straight across the front are for the narrow and wide 2 seam coverhem, for the 3 seam coverhem and also for the chain stitch.


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Date: 9/1/10 9:35 AM

I don't have the video, but I do have the manual, which in my opinion is very confusing, e.g. It says there are six needle positions, but there are only 5 holes! There are 3 (left or front) and two (right or back). However the positions on the lcd screen are very hard to work out for my old brain.

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Date: 9/2/10 3:58 AM

My serger does not have an LCD screen. Just a graph type dial, where you dial the stitch you want and it sets the auto tensions for the stitch, but tensions can be altered if needed but not usually needed. It does show on the graph which needles are used for each stitch dialed and the settings for each stitch chosen..like if you need to drop the stitch finger, widths, lengths and DF and coverhem and chain stitch settings etc.

My manual has pictures of the needle positons used for each stitch too. I have the video and it also shows which position to use..but the video is sooo slow and the narrator speaks so slow that it is irritating and I have not watched that video in a very long time.

I wonder what the 6th postion is that your manual indicates? A 5th needle used for doing a safety 5 thread is understandable but I cannot understand the 6th needle. My serger states 4 thread safety stitch on the graph but it is not a safety stitch that uses the chain stitch as my old Babylock did and as the 5 thread models do. The 4 thread safety on my serger is very secure though. The 4 thread on my old Babylock was actually called a mock safety..and it did have the separate chain stitch beside the overlock. It was considered a 4/2 serger and could not do all the 3 thread stitches that the 4/3 or 2/3/4 models do but could do a chain stitch only too.
With 4 thread serging it can be confusing between the 4 thread safety, mock safety and 4 thread plain overlock but those machines only have 2 needle postions. LOL

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Date: 9/2/10 9:56 AM

Is your serger an Elna? So much information, I see why you are an advanced sewer! Is there any way you can scan the needle position page for me? Apart from the satin stitch I used on my granddaughter's flowergirl dress, I have only ever used the 5 thread with the chain stitch. This is possibly a waste of technology on my part...

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Date: 9/2/10 12:41 PM

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Is your serger an Elna? So much information, I see why you are an advanced sewer! Is there any way you can scan the needle position page for me? Apart from the satin stitch I used on my granddaughter's flowergirl dress, I have only ever used the 5 thread with the chain stitch. This is possibly a waste of technology on my part...

My serger is an Elna 744. I did a PR review on it. If you wish to read it, my review fell down to the bottom of the PR Elna review page with a few other reviews on the 744 for some reason and they are not up with the rest of the 744 reviews.
I'm so sorry but I have no way to scan my manual. I would be happy to do so if I could. Maybe someone else with an Elna can.
Your serger is computerized where mine is not. Does it take the procards like the Elna 945 that gives extra stitches? My serger only has something like 17 stitches or so and I think that includes the 3 coverhems and chain stitch.
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Date: 9/2/10 4:19 PM

Maide,
I will try and help you. When I bought the Elna 925 13 years ago, it came with the main manual, which also included another serger model and a separate one just for the Elna 925. I can't seem to find the main one, but the other one will do for now. To answer your question about needle postions and holes, you never use more than 3 needle holes for any of the stitches. The three needle positions on the left part of the needle holder are used for the coverstich and the chain stitch only. These are marked LO, 1,2. The other 2 needle holes on the right are for the regular serger stitches, such as the 4 thread, 3thread, narrow thread, rolled hem, etc.
If you open the cover on the machine, you will see thread guides for some of the different stiches. I see a graph of the chainstitch, the 5 stitch, a 3 thread coverstitch, and a regular 4 thread sergerstitch. First reread your manual and as you read the chart which shows you a picture of the serger, look at each part on your serger so that you are familiar with the parts of the serger and what each part is called. Then go through each stitch as you press the little triangular buttons. There should be a place in the manual which explains what all of the icons mean on the led screen. If you are using a coverstitch, you need to use the correct little table next to the needles. There is also a knife symbol on the screen. If you see "down", that means that you need to put the knife down so that it won't cut the fabric. The three needles for the coverstitch are there because you can select the number of stitching lines to use for your coverstitch. If you want 3 lines of stitching, then you need to use all 3 needles. If you want a wide coverstitch, you use the two outside needles. If you want a narrow coverstitch, you use the 2 on the right of the 3 needle positions for the coverstitch. If you have any specific questions about a stitch, please feel free to ask me.
Harriet

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