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KS 3536 - How to raise the V?
I'd like to raise the V at least an inch. Perhaps 2. How?
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Date: 9/6/10 4:16 PM

Hi everyone,

I would like to make Kwik Sew 3536.

The one pattern review here says the neckline is too low as drafted... and looking at the model, I know I'd feel more comfortable if it were up by at least 1 inch. Perhaps two. I am short in the torso, and much of that shortness is between the top of my shoulder and the apex of my bustline. Even though I'm only a B cup, a deep V neckline can be really indecent on me.

How does one go about raising this neckline without altering where the wrap attaches to the waistband?

Alternatively I could make Kwik Sew 3408, but I'd rather not. I have a shrug I'm finishing up that I'd like to wear if I'm chilled, and I think the shrug would go better on the faux wrap rather than the real one. Also, I live in a very windy area and full frontal nudity just isn't my thing.

Advice? Ideas?

Thanks much in advance!
Yak

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Date: 9/6/10 5:22 PM

You can just add what you need with tissue to the top of the original v-neck, drawing a similar line, just higher. When doing this, however, you may find that the neckline will gape somewhat. To fix the gaping, you'll need to fold maybe 1/4 inch out of the neckline, tapering to zero at the armhole.

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Date: 9/6/10 5:29 PM

On the same track as Sherril, I was wondering if you couldn't just take a little tuck at the neck line, above the bust, tapering back to the armhole, without adding paper. I tried to add paper to a neck line like this and it just didn't work at all. When I removed the paper and just made the neck adjustment, it brought the entire area up. Looking at that pattern, it's a very deep V. You might have to end up wearing a cami under it.

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Date: 9/6/10 5:37 PM

I would redraft the front neckline but you will have to also redraft the back neckline as that will change also. It is a tricky thing to do and not as simple as one would want.

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Date: 9/6/10 6:14 PM

I've never raised a V-neck but I'm wondering why you couldn't put the pencil tip at the bottom of the V and draw a line straight up 2" (not following the V line but straight up on the center front line) and then connect from the neck/shoulder to the new raised V point. I hope this is clear.

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Date: 9/6/10 6:48 PM

Thanks for all the replies, everyone. It's as I feared... not as easy to do as it is to say.

ccris, the front is done in two right angle triangle sections that overlap each other and are sewn down at the waist seam, with the points of the triangles ending at the side seams. If you move the diagonal line of the triangle over, you wind up cutting off the tips of the triangles at the side seam. I think this would look like an error.

One other way to handle this is to raise the waistline seam. You have a lot more neckline flexibility in an empire seam wrap dress. But then you're talking a very different dress. And if I were to go that route I might as well go with the Ottobre "Journal" dress pattern from 2-2010. I'm thinking about that. I already made the underdress on that and know that I need to lengthen the skirt... I did intend to make the tunic and haven't gotten around to it.

Alternatively, I could just make up Ottobre 2-2009-14. I have a really bad headcold and I'm not feeling well enough to do much in the way of pattern alterations.

I really appreciate everyone's input. Thanks!

Yak

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Date: 9/6/10 9:09 PM

Oops....apologies for not looking at your dress pattern until just now. I was visualizing a one piece front with a simple V-neck.

Here's another idea..........you'll have to give it more thought, though. What about folding out two inches horizontally above the V neck from armscye to armscye (probably in the middle of the armscye or slightly above). Obviously, this will shorten your entire front length two inches, too, and you'll need to add it back at the bottom of the bodice (waist). (I'm assuming the inset is a separate piece and attaches to the bodice at waist and and then again to the skirt waist). When you add back these two inches across the bottom of the bodice front, your front and back side seams won't match, but they will (theoretically) if you drop your front armscye two inches. When you took the horizontal tuck across the bodice, you also removed two inches from the front armscye, and you HAVE to add that back in or it'll be too tight. Is this making sense? If I were doing this, I think I'd just lay my original armscye pattern back on the adjusted pattern and trace it. I've never needed to do this, but it seems like it might work.

Oh shoot, I just thought of something else..............that's going to raise your bust point two inches, too. Hmmm. Now what? Since I don't have the drawing in front of me, I can't visualize how to do it. If the pattern doesn't have a dart, you still might be ok or maybe you'd just have to increase the side seam a bit. One durn adjustment leads to another and another and another.
-- Edited on 9/6/10 9:26 PM --

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Date: 9/7/10 7:01 AM

Would this tutorial help?
http://gorgeousthings.blogspot.com/2007/03/raising-neckline.html

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Date: 9/7/10 8:23 AM

Wow! Is it possible?

If I understand correctly, Gorgeous Things (Ann) simply redrew the inside piece of the wrapped top. She raised it 2 inches in her tutorial. That's all she did. Hmmmm.

I have redrawn necklines many times without making any other changes -- but never with a wrap top. Didn't know it would be that easy.

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Date: 9/7/10 8:27 PM

The difference between what Anne did and this pattern is where the bodice piece ends. Her pattern is for a higher waisted dress. The bottom of the pattern piece that she is adjusting hits right at the lower edge of the ribcage. In KS 3536, the lower edge of the faux wrap ends just at the top of the pelvis.

Furthermore, she isn't just adding fabric, she is actually straightening a curve in order to raise the neckline. You'll note that the width at the shoulder seam stays the same. In the KS 3536, that diagonal line is not terribly curved to begin with... I will have to add fabric to the shoulder seam in order to add any fabric at all, which means also redrafting the back bodice. That's a pain in itself, but the sad bit is that I don't gain much for it. If I add width at the top (at the shoulder seam) and taper to nothing at the attachment point, I will wind up with a narrower V, but one that is not appreciably higher. This might give me the modesty I want... but I suspect it won't. A plunging narrow V is still plunging.

DON'T click if you're faint of heart.

Suffice it to say that I'm 10 years older, 3 kids wiser and don't have her assets... the local township would probably pay me not to wear that.

Hey... not a bad way to make some mad money... maybe I will make KS 3536 after all...

Yak

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