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Message Board > Plus Size Sewing > Interesting article from Weight Watchers on sizes ( Moderated by JEF)

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Carol Mendoza
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Date: 9/29/10 10:11 PM

I was sent this through Facebook today from Weight Watchers - hopefully the link will work without an account with Weight Watchers. If it doesn't work - it is about women being hung up on sizes. It has a chart with RTW sizes by certain stores and also pattern sizes and how they compare to the RTW sizes in each of these stores. Very interesting article
-- Edited on 9/29/10 10:13 PM -- Are you hung up on a size.
Fixed link so it wouldn't open up my account with WW!
-- Edited on 9/29/10 10:17 PM --

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Date: 9/30/10 7:25 AM

Wow! That is an eye opening article! Thank you for posting this.

Nora :)

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Date: 9/30/10 8:28 AM

Oh yeah, we all know how the clothing designers try to cater to our vanity. Laugh....I am sitting here in my size 8 Levi jeans sewing a size 16 dress! What is wrong with that picture!

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Date: 9/30/10 9:43 AM

Thanks!!! An very informative article...makes me feel better.

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Date: 9/30/10 9:58 AM

For men, here is a similar article from Esquire Magazine . They call it "down-waisting".

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Date: 9/30/10 11:10 AM

Excellent article! Thanks for posting it.

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Date: 9/30/10 11:18 AM

Great article. Thanks for the heads up.

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Date: 9/30/10 11:59 AM

Designers are not catering to your vanity.

Somebody made up this myth of "vanity sizing" and it just won't die. It is really annoying -and I'll be writing Kallal later. What's worse is that there are no proofs, they just say "x" and have no data to back it up. Well I work in the industry, I'm a pattern maker. I have the data, I've been writing about it for years. I've been cited by the New York Times, Forbes, The Wall Street Journal etc. It just takes so long for solid information to filter down to the masses. Below are links to proofs if you want the truth. Btw, the article wasn't bad except for the psycho-babble claims and the quote from Elaine Perlov -who happens to be one of my designers.

The Myth of Vanity Sizing
Fit and Sizing Entropy
Push manufacturing; subverting the fit feedback loop
Sizing evolution
Shrinkage and fit
Alternatives in Women’s sizing
Tyranny of tiny sizes?
The history of women’s sizing pt 1
The history of women’s sizing pt 2
The history of women’s sizing pt 3
Sizing is a variety problem
The birth of size 10?
Vanity sizing shoes
Tyranny of tiny sizes pt.2
Vanity sizing: generational edition
Vanity sizing: generational edition pt.2
Vanity sizing: the consumer spending edition

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Date: 9/30/10 1:25 PM

Kathleen, I will go and read your links, but even before I do, can you give me the short answer for how most of us fit in to a RTW size that is 3-4 sizes smaller than our pattern sizes - which are supposed to be the "standard". How come I have clothes in my closet ranging from size 6 (some of which I CAN fit into) to size 12 (some of which I CAN'T fit into)? My average RTW size is 8-10 but my pattern size is size 16.

In other words WHAT SIZE AM I?

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Date: 9/30/10 1:28 PM

I'll go through all of the links when I get a chance. But I do have a question: Is it true that sizes vary so much is because designers have their own size scale? I'm a RTW size 12 in one brand/designer, a size 10 in another and even a size 8 in a different one.

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