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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Is this a scam? ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Is this a scam?
can one get scammed selling a machine?
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Date: 11/13/10 4:35 PM

I am selling a modern machine on CL. I won't link to it cause I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to advertise. I'm just concerned about this response from a potential buyer. I told her no I wouldn't go for something like this - I want to sell the machine locally, to someone who will come to the house, sew on it, pay cash and it's done. Could I somehow get scammed by SELLING ?? Here is her email:

I am interested and I will like to make an instant purchase, so kindly end the advert on Craigslist, I do not mind adding an extra $25 for you to close the advert on craigslist so that I can be rest assured that I am the prospective buyer, I would have loved to come take a look but I am a very busy woman I am very sure you understand. I will also want you to know that I will be paying via Certified Check, and it will be sent to you via courier service due to the distance. You don't need to bother about the shipment, as that has been taken care of...... So I will need you to provide me with the following information to facilitate the mailing of the check.
1. Full Name on the check
2. Address where payment will be sent to not p.o.box (because my courier service does not deliver to p.o box)
3. City
4. State
5. Zip Code
6. Phone Number
Once again, I will like to remind you that you will not be responsible for shipping as I will have my mover come over as soon as you have cashed the check .
Have a nice day.

What do you think? Did I do the right thing?

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Date: 11/13/10 4:39 PM

SCAMMMMMMMM!

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Date: 11/13/10 4:40 PM

Hi ~
Yes, you did the right thing! This is absolutely a scam!
My husband sells car parts & such on CL, & he's always getting replies like this ~
I think that you should report this to CL.
Laurie

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Date: 11/13/10 4:41 PM

Yes you did! Even certified checks can be fraudulent. Personally I would not accept anything but cash and they pick it up.
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Date: 11/13/10 4:47 PM

Why dont u post it here in the Classifieds?

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Date: 11/13/10 4:50 PM

When I sell on craigslist, I never have anyone come to my home. I meet them somewhere and show them the item and it must be cash!. I don't want anyone in my home, as you never really know their motive. They may see something they like and plan to come back at a later time. You just have to be careful when dealing with people. Too many horror stories floating around!

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Date: 11/13/10 4:53 PM

Total scam.

If you had said yes, you would have received what looked like a certified check but for more than the value of your machine. The "buyer" would explain some problem and just ask you to deposit it and send her the difference.
Since the bank would make funds available to you in 24-72 hours (I forgot) you'd think this meant the check was good but oh no ...

The bank has to make funds available but that doesn't mean the check is good. Sometime later (2 weeks, 4 weeks?) you'd get a notice from your bank that the cashier's check wasn't good and the amount of the cashier's check that the bank advanced you is being withdrawn from your account.

If you keep your account low, you would then probably inadvertently bounce any outstanding checks you'd written. That would make you out the amount you sent the "buyer" and sucking up any bounced check fees.

BTW even a REAL certified check can be cancelled. If the "buyer" got a real certified check, the buyer could go to his/her bank the next day and say it fell in the toilet and the cancel it. In that case, you'd have a real check - so no way to know it was a forgery - but it wouldn't be valid.

You did the right thing.

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Date: 11/13/10 4:55 PM



Not only is it a total scam.. but a pretty famous one at that. I would not even answer her inquiry Mary.

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Date: 11/13/10 5:01 PM


Mary, do list your machine here on our classifieds.. then you can take paypal, or a cashiers check or postal money order..etc.. and wait till you are satisfied its a legitimate check or so forth before you ship the machine. IN this case I would also definitely use the UPS pack and ship promise program..
Craigslist would still be my first choice though..as NO shipping is involved..and with CL everyone who is NOT a scammer knows its CASH only. Even if you have to reduce your price some.. or wait a while until the right buyer comes along.. that is what I would do..

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Date: 11/13/10 5:34 PM

Absolute scam. But besides the whole forged check thing, just look at the message. It doesn't look like the sender even looked at your listing. Nowhere in that message that you pasted does it say "sewing machine," the person probably didn't even read the listing. (And that's assuming that it was a person rather than a computer that sent you the message.) Someone who was actually interested would have questions, would want things, would want some kind of assurances from you. And people with lots of money to throw around (like to pay you extra to take down the listing, or to have a courier service) aren't going to be looking for things like that on Craigslist. Why wouldn't they just go get a machine at a dealer? You go to Craigslist to get something cheaply and locally. (Or maybe locally to family.. I routinely check the Philadelphia Craigslist as well as southern Maryland, because my parents live up there, and I can get them to go get things.. but when my mom goes to pick something up for me and gives the seller cash, it's still a local deal, I'm just not there.) This person is claiming to have their own courier service, and yet they're shopping for a machine on craigslist? If it were a collector and the machine were an antique, I could see *maybe* an out-of-area collector being interested.. but they would explain that, would be have questions for you, and would explain why it was that they were so intent on buying that particular machine.)
"instant purchase"? "kindly end the advert"? A million assurances to you without a single question for you?? Even if it weren't a classic scam, that entire message is covered in red flags. It doesn't even sound like it was written by a human.
Of COURSE you can be scammed selling something! Far more easily than you could get scammed buying something!

I agree that you should put it up in the PR classifieds, especially if you're not needing to sell it immediately. There are people on PR at least semi-local to you, or with family who are, or who pass through the area occasionally, etc., so if you don't want to ship it, you can just put in the ad that you want to keep it local. (There's really no reason NOT to list it on PR, is there?)
-- Edited on 11/13/10 5:35 PM --

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