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Viking Designer Diamond or Babylock Ellisimo??
Trying to decide - any suggestions??
SharieB
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Date: 11/21/10 9:33 PM

I'm looking at either the Viking Diamond or Babylock Ellisimo. There are features on both that I really like. I'm having trouble deciding which one would work best for me. Any suggestions? What do you like/dislike about these two machines? How do you think they compare?

Thanks!

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Date: 11/21/10 9:37 PM

which dealer do you love more? They should bring your strawberries and Champagne for the money your about to spend! LOL which one is nicer.

Also keep in mind Babylock feet are much cheaper and I think Babylock gives great lessons for their high end machines. If your buying the Viking at Joanns you will not going to get the same training.



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dodger

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Date: 11/21/10 10:37 PM

If it is going to mainly be used for embroidery, get a multi needle, soooo much faster and very easy to use. You can pick up a good sewing machine, even used, that will do most of what you will need for sewing or quilting.

But then, I love Babylock, so user friendly and the accescories and feet are reasonable.

Enjoy the champagne and strawberries!

Let us know what you decide and congratulations.

That would be my choice if spending that much money. A six needle wold be fine with me.

Witchipoo
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Date: 11/21/10 10:41 PM

I have the Ellisimo and love it. I personally think the Babylock is more user friendly. The Viking uses symbols in place of words and when you are first learning your machine that can be frustrating. Everything on the Ellisimo uses words to explain why a particular button may not work. I've had a Viking SE and had serious tension problems and was offered a good deal to upgrade to Diamond. When the Diamond first came out I think there were some tension problems. Hence the Babylock. As I'm writing this I am embroidering on the Ellisimo. There is a new upgrade for the Ellisimo, should you decide on the Ellisimo see if the dealer will throw the upgrade in. The upgrade can reduce a design by 60% and reduce stitches and density as well as enlarging the design by as much as 200% increasing the stitches and density. I've seen the stitch outs and they look great. Additionally the upgrade can scan the fabric you have in the embroidery hoop with the camera that is in the Ellisimo and bring the scan up on the screen so you place your design exactlly where you want it. Both Brother and Babylock have the absolute best needle threader I think. Babylock machines can use generic feet which the Viking can't. Just some things to consider when you are making that kind of purchase. know ladies who have the Viking Diamond and they love them..... Good luck on your decision..

poorpigling

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Date: 11/21/10 11:46 PM


I would be more concerned with how and where I was going to get my machine serviced.. especially the regular servicing.. I understand Viking has to send their machines out to get servicing.. and I would not want my big expensive machine shipped anywhere ..

KarenTeel

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Date: 11/22/10 8:44 AM

I have the Viking SELE and the Diamond. Both machines were bought from my dealer in Joanns. As to not going to Joanns, you have to go back to the dealer. My dealer is super on support, 4 free lessons (Diamond) to learn the machine and offers many classes every month to learn new techniques, feet, etc.

On the service my dealer does have a local shop they use. Yes, it goes out of the store, but rarely are the machines sent to the corporate repair center. It does happen though. Most dealers will have a local shop they work with.

The bottom line in my opinion is what others have said, go with the dealer that will work with you. TOL machines are complex so you want someone you can call when you have issues. Most of my issues have been operator error. I did have a problem with the SE when the feeddogs locked down, but it was fixed locally and very quickly.

Try all the machines that made your list. Whatever one feels right to you is the one to go with.

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Date: 11/22/10 9:55 AM

I agree with this statement, I am dreading bringing in my viking for a repair when that time comes.
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Date: 11/22/10 4:02 PM

No, the Vikings don't necessarily have to be sent away for service. Some of the dealers within the Joann stores may have to. But, as noted above, they may also have local repair services. I think otherwise the stand alone dealers, like the one I have, usually do service on site. Actually my dealer advertises 24-hour a day emergency service--hmmm . . . wonder what you have to pay for that!

I found most of these TOL machines had about the same features, so for me it came down to dealer, price, and most of all, just how the machine felt to me. I have the Diamond, and I loved it from the moment I sat down at it. Others might have the same feeling with a different machine. For what you're paying, you should get whatever you really love and are excited about.

Kiljoybaby
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Date: 11/22/10 4:21 PM

I have both, Ellegante and Diamond Design, Viking D1, Singer XL6000. I use my Diamond for garment sewing. Daughter loves her Singer XL6000 which I gave her. Also use the Evolution Serger (Babylock). Still learning DD and Evolution. I really need to sew more. I go along with whatever dealer you like the best. All My Machines I bought out of town as Kingman, AZ has nothing here. Be sure you buy the one you really bond with. Happy sewing. Marion

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Date: 1/3/11 9:16 AM

I had a viking SE, sold it and bought a Babylock Ellisimo best purchase ever!!!! I absolutely love this machine. Like others have said very user friendly. One of my favorite features is the snowman sticker used to center a design. The built in camera finds the sticker and embroiders the design so you do not have to have your item perfectly centered in the hoop. Good luck!

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