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Is it better to buy a discontinued model or a new in production model?
Deciding on new machine as most know :) I have a feeling I can get a good deal of a discontinued model.
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Date: 5/4/11 1:48 AM

Hi everyone I just need your opinion. As I'm buying a new sewing machine which are TOL sewing only machines. I am deciding on a either a Pfaff or Bernina but I think I may get a good deal on the Pfaff 2058 as it's a discontinued TOL model. Would you go for a Newly produced model or would you get a discontinued model and this goes for any brand?

Out of my choices one is a European made (that's the discontinued Pfaff 2058 which is now $2299 from $3499, if I try hard enough I may get it under $2000 but I will only get it if it brand new in box because I'm a little fussy like that).

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Date: 5/4/11 1:57 AM

I look at it this way. You can buy the end of a model, which has been updated, improved and basically is as good as it gets. Or you can buy the first of a model which has yet to have all the bugs worked out.

I was in the same position many years ago and I went with the end of a model. It turned out to be the best machine I have ever bought. Other buyers had no end of issues with their new model. I was very glad I bought the discontinued model and saved a bucket load of money too.

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Date: 5/4/11 2:46 AM

Did you get free extras like bobbins and extra feet and did they reduce the price from their selling price?

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Date: 5/4/11 3:40 AM

Yes and yes. I got a big discount, well below their advertised end of model sale price, plus lots of extras and goodies. Dealers usually have to purchase the machines outright, so if they don't sell they are left with the machine, which makes haggling easy.

The main thing though is to be sure you really want that model. Don't buy it just because it's cheaper than the new model. It's a lot of money to spend so treat it like any investment and make sure you buy the right machine for you.

One thing to be aware of. Old TOL machines will continue to be supported for only 10 years after the last machine is sold as a general rule. This means after 10 years parts and optional extras may become harder to find. HTH

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Date: 5/4/11 9:33 AM

I agree with Sew4Fun, like buying a car, I prefer to go with the one that has the kinks worked out than be the guinea pig with the new. Moving within the same brand is a little different as the company often takes certain things forward to the new machine.

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Date: 5/5/11 6:54 AM

Even though a machine has been out over two years after its release, could there still be bugs because I still remember QuiltingQueen said 90% of the bugs has been resolved but only 10% remains (refering to Pfaff QE4).

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Date: 5/5/11 5:58 PM

I also agree with Sew4fun I think you can buy with alot more confidence on a known model. It is possible for there still to be bugs with the model but I don't really remember anything major being complained about with the 2058, since its not much different than the 2056 with stitch creator, where the QE4 I thought was part of a whole new line - not sure though.

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Date: 5/5/11 7:04 PM

I would go with the 2058. I still use mine and in my opinion it's far better than my CV5.5. I think the older models are work horse machine with bugs already worked out of them. They don't offer as much but as far as I'm concerned, the quality is far superior.

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Date: 5/5/11 8:34 PM

Are the older models better built then the newer machines?
I know for sure this won't be my last machine but something I will cherish for years with no trade or sell etc as it's the last European made machine.
My most concern is would it last at 10 years minimum (well at least that's my expectation for a machine that retail over $2500 retail price.)
I would hate to buy a machine which only lives for only a few years after purchase.
2058 is quite solid when I had a little go sewing on it but are the newer lines the same? I know there production of newer lines are regulated by Pfaff specification.

Are part really that hard to get especially with older models?

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Date: 5/6/11 6:52 PM

I think to some extent 'old' is relative when you are talking about sewing machines. You can see on these boards plenty of people with vintage machines where they can get parts of have repairs done. Yet there are some machines from that first computerised era that are relatively newer but parts are harder to find.

I don't think of my 2056 as old and the one time I had to have a repair there was no problem with parts and I didn't think it very expensive to fix.

I think with any computerised machine, but maybe more with embroidery models its the advances in the technology that make some models seem old or obselete and when the old technology seems too hard support for it seems to dry up.

There are pros and con's with any machine but I don't see parts with the two you are considering will be that hard to get.

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