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why has it become so hard to find Mettler thread?
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Date: 5/23/11 9:54 PM

Somewhere along the way I fell in love with Mettler cotton thread, both the cotton silk finish size 50 and the machine quilting size 40. I like the silk finish for seams and general sewing. I like the quilting thread for top stitching and of course quilting. I haven't been sewing much in recent years and have just gone back to sewing.

To my surprise, Mettler thread has become more difficult to find locally. Gutterman is everywhere. I tried some of it but neither my Bernina nor I like it as well. Especially not the polyester stuff.

I was taught that the thread should be weaker than the fabric so that if something gave, it was the thread and not the fabric tearing. Isn't that often an issue with polyester thread? I mean, isn't it stronger than many fabrics? Do you sew your cottons with polyester thread?

I did order some Mettler quilting thread on line. But can anyone tell me anything about why it is less common these days? Can you tell me why you love Gutterman? Maybe the newer sewing machines prefer different thread than my beloved Bernina 1090. Can anyone tell me that?

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Date: 5/23/11 10:30 PM

I loved that thread too! My local fabric store doesn't carry Mettler anymore, and I'm not sure why.

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Date: 5/23/11 10:30 PM

The only place I can get Mettler is at a Bernina dealership. My Janome 6600 is not fussy about thread. I can use all brands and all types of thread... I do not buy cheap thread and my favorite is Superior Threads... I have been stocking up on Guttermans whenever Atlanta Thread has a sale. I recently went through my fabric stash and ordered matching thread colors. I also have a Guttermans Real Thread Chart which was a great investment. I also have one for Mettler Cotton Embroidery Thread and of course anytime I get a new line of thread at Superior, I get a real thread card too.

Superior Threads Education page is loaded with great information that may clarify the uses of cotton vs polyester thread. Thread is not manufactured quite the same as it was more than a decade ago, which makes polyester more versatile.

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Date: 5/23/11 10:41 PM

The price of cotton has increased sharply this last year (it's an expensive crop to grow, requiring a great deal of water), and that might be the major reason for the relative scarcity of cotton thread.

As for the strength of sewing thread vs the strength of the fabric, yeah, there's a difference between cotton, silk, and synthetic threads--but when was the last time you had a RTW or home made garment sewn with synthetic thread rip along the seamline because the fabric couldn't stand the gaff? In fact, this is more of an academic issue than a real problem for most of us in the course of an average lifetime. I have certainly never run into a problem with fabric being sawn apart by synthetics in more than fifty years of sewing, and I have used synthetic thread almost exclusively for most of that time.

As to brands, I prefer Mettler to Gutermann; I find it smoother and with less 'fuzz' than Gutermann, but my old Bernina 930 cannot tell the difference.

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Date: 5/23/11 10:44 PM

Last time I bought Mettler it was at Hancocks. There's one in Bend, Salem and Vancouver.

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Date: 5/23/11 10:50 PM

Will Polyester thread really tear the fabric? -- Superior Threads article. "Thread will not tear through a fabric solely due to its fiber content. If a thread ever tears through a fabric, it is because it won the strength contest. "

Video, Bob of Superior threads addressing the Poly vs. Cotton myth.

What is true is that any thread that is stronger than the fabric or that is abrasive can tear into the fabric. The myth is that polyester thread is always stronger than cotton fabric; it depends on the specific thread (either poly or cotton) and it depends on the fabric.

I prefer cotton because I like the way it sews. Polyester thread can stretch as you sew and then "shrink" afterward and pucker the seam. I will concede that stretching might also be possible with cotton thread (I haven't run any tests). I DO know that, over the years, I've found poly thread to be more problematical -- FOR ME, at least, and FOR ME, cotton has been easier to work with. I've heard Sandra Betzina recommend cotton thread for sewing silk because it does not stretch like poly, so I'm not the only sewer who has had stretch problems with poly thread.

For quilting and piecing, I like Gutterman or Mettler cotton thread. Unless I'm shopping at a quilt store, 100% cotton thread can be difficult to find.

Superior Threads, Masterpiece: I'm going to try 100% cotton Masterpiece for piecing, next time I buy thread for quilting. (I've been pleased with the other products I've purchased from Superior Threads.)

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Date: 5/23/11 10:51 PM

Thanks everybody. I sure would like a Mettler color chart. The on line sites have terrible color renditions for the threads. Do you know where to get one?

When I am sewing seams, I don't do much thread color matching. I have white, off white, two shades of gray and black. That works for most things, but not red. I learned to do that from a very experienced seamstress long ago... That means that you don't have to invest in lots of thread for seams and it also means you don't need to do so many bobbins. But when the thread shows, like in top stitching, then I want color matching.

I did try some Gutterman thread. I did some top stitching comparisons. With the Gutterman, I found that the stitching didn't look stratight, but seemed to waver. Not sure I am explaining it very well but I didn't like how it looked. The Mettler looked great.

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Date: 5/23/11 11:09 PM

I purchase Mettler cotton thread online at CreateForLess

I believe the color selection is limited. So far I've only purchased white

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Date: 5/24/11 2:33 AM

Here's another Mettler lover! I purchase throughUncommon Thread and have had wonderful service from the company. They do have the thread charts (actual thread) and I keep mine handy for color matching. Their thread feels so smooth and stitches in wonderfully.

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Date: 5/24/11 9:32 AM

Thanks for the sources. I ordered some from Quilters Warehouse quite a while ago. Hoping it comes today.

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