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Brother Compal Deluxe - Bobbin issues
redtulips
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Date: 6/12/11 4:56 AM

Hi Everyone,

I have just gotten a sewing machine with no manual. It's a Brother Compal Deluxe and everything is in Japanese!

I'm a beginner so please forgive me, I don't know the terminology just yet.

It was working just fine but when I had to re-fill the bobbin, it is now jamming up. The top part w/ the needle is fine. It makes a clicking sounds along where the bobbin is and it will either jam up the thread, or not pull the thread out properly along the bottom.

I have a Reader's Digest (1976) guide to sewing and I think it's threaded properly. I can upload a picture if it's helpful...

Forgot to add, it's a removal bobbin. Also the latch is to the side, instead of pointing up like my old sewing machine.
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Dotmoll
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Date: 6/12/11 6:14 AM

If you can upload a picture of the manual page, I or anybody else who speaks Japanese can translate it for you.

I don't know how old your model is, but Brother used to use a different size bobbin - they now take the same size as many other machine brands.

I'm sorry, I don't know the two sizes are in imperial measurements, but that would be my first guess if you are having problems.

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Date: 6/12/11 11:40 AM

Is it a drop in bobbin or a front load with a metal bobbin case? Sounds like a front load when you mention a latch.

I had an older Brother with front load bobbin that could be described as persnickety to say the least!

The bobbin needs to spin in the case counter clockwise. Bring the thread up through the tension guide on the case so it comes through the hole on the case.

To insert the bobbin case you MUST have the needle in the highest position possible or the case won't properly seat. Use the hand wheel to get there. Pull the latch out from the bobbin case and insert the bobbin. Slowly turn the hand wheel toward you to bring up the bobbin thread.

Before you try this I would check and clean the bobbin area and remove the needle plate to check for small bits of thread since you said it was jamming.

HTH
Debbie

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Date: 6/12/11 12:35 PM

I second absolutely everything Debbie just said!

My first machine was an entry-level mechanical Brother with a front-load bobbin, and yes, it was VERY picky. I had to write which direction the bobbin went in on the machine itself with a Sharpie, which helped a lot (and I could be misremembering, but I believe mine actually went in clockwise.).

That machine was also really picky about thread and wouldn't sew at all with some brands, so if you have some different varieties to experiment with, try that, too.

I also learned to never, ever start sewing without holding onto the thread tails with my left hand--that was a guarantee of thread jamming!

I would disassemble your bobbin case, brush it out inside to make sure there's no lint/fluff/thread caught down there, try flipping your bobbin over, and make sure to rethread the top entirely from scratch, too, with a new needle. When mine gave me trouble, doing all of that (only took a minute or so) always fixed the problem.

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ETA: I wanted to say that despite my Brother's issues with thread and tension, it was a wonderful machine to learn on, and I'm really glad it taught me everything it did about how a machine works, troubleshooting, etc. Good luck with yours!


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Date: 6/14/11 1:06 AM

Thanks everyone. I ended up searching a bit more on the message board and found the Sew-Classic blog. Sorry I didn't post again right away, I didn't have internet access until today.

I un-threaded everything and realized that the tension on the bobbin was very, very tight. I don't know how it got to be that way since it was working fine at first. But I loosened the tension on the bobbin, cleaned everything, re-threaded everything and it works wonderfully!. I actually think the stitch is better now than before!

It's a nice sewing machine and I'm very happy with it. I've made one night gown out of some thin cotton material I had and I will start on some pajama bottoms for my husband next.

I am so excited to really get started on my sewing journey! It's so much fun!

Thanks again everyone, people who sew are so friendly and helpful - I really appreciate it. :)

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Date: 6/14/11 1:09 AM

Quote: simplystitches
Is it a drop in bobbin or a front load with a metal bobbin case? Sounds like a front load when you mention a latch.



I had an older Brother with front load bobbin that could be described as persnickety to say the least!



The bobbin needs to spin in the case counter clockwise. Bring the thread up through the tension guide on the case so it comes through the hole on the case.



To insert the bobbin case you MUST have the needle in the highest position possible or the case won't properly seat. Use the hand wheel to get there. Pull the latch out from the bobbin case and insert the bobbin. Slowly turn the hand wheel toward you to bring up the bobbin thread.



Before you try this I would check and clean the bobbin area and remove the needle plate to check for small bits of thread since you said it was jamming.



HTH

Debbie




It's a front load and now that you mention it - I am pretty sure the needle was in the wrong position, in addition to the tight tension on the bobbin. Good to know for the future!
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Date: 9/28/14 9:04 AM

Hi please everyone help me ..i have bought this brother compal deluxe sewing machin but the problem is that its used and its without bobbin ..the bobbin that i bought doesnt fix in that machine ..my machine is always cutting the upper thread ..i dont know where is the problem ..kindly help me if anyone have its manual ..please reply ..thankyou

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Date: 9/28/14 4:26 PM

If it's white and pink, and has a push down thread cutter in the front of it, I think it might actually have been made by Juki in Japan, and then sold by Brother even? And a front loader, in that case it probably takes a metal or plastic class 15 bobbin.

But to me, the thread cutter on the front and stuff looks very Juki, so try contacting both Brother and Juki to try to find a manual. It even looks a lot like this Juki Flora 5000 machine too actually. Maybe you can find a manual for that one more easy, I don't know?

Here's google images for Juki Flora 5000 machine, maybe if you hunt all through there, you can find a manual someplace?

https://www.google.com/search?q=juki+flora+5000&client=firefox-a&hs=rz1&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=xmsoVOf_NMWxyASfjoC4Aw&ved=0CB8QsAQ&biw=1056&bih=876

Also go over to the www.singer.com web site and under manuals, download and look at all the ones for Singer machines of the 1980's and 1990's that start with the letters DX or LX just since Singer had a lot of Juki made machines that look pretty close to it too, maybe you can even use the manual for one of those if it matches close enough.

Good Luck.

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