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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Janome 1600p-dbx vs Juki tl-2010q ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 6/20/11 12:45 PM

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this two machines. I know that Juki uses regular needles, has feed dogs, needle threader, no separate bobbin winder and it is about $100 more than the Janome. But any hand-on experience info will help.

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Bernina 200E, 750E, 1150MDC, Babylock Evolution, BLCS2, Juki 2010q, Simplicity Blindsticher.


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Date: 6/20/11 1:50 PM

I have the 1600P that uses regular needles. It has the speed control the thread cutter and the needle threaded also. It also drops the needle down when you push the needle up/down button without waiting for the next stitch. I think it is a better machine that the Juki and more fully featured than the DBX.
LESLIE

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Date: 6/21/11 12:54 PM

Thank you for the info. I recently test drove the Janome 1600p-dbx but I have no way to test the Juki. The Janome feels bulkier. The Juki looks smaller more homey and read on other website that the Juki is not a loud as the Janome.

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Date: 6/21/11 10:06 PM

The new Janome 1600 is very quiet and the LED lighting is very nice too. I do think it is also heavier which helps with vibration at high speeds I think. Juki also has a new model which is supposed to upgrade the features and the lighting too. Check them out and let us know.
Leslie

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Date: 6/22/11 0:07 AM

I had a 98Q once and it was a great machine but I have since learned that for me, speed control is very helpful when doing FM. I was able to do fairly well with the Juki but I would give the 1600P a hard look if I were to go that route again for the speed-control. also if it is heavier, that would be a bonus in my book. For a long time, I was put off by the cover-plate thinking it'd interfere w/ the whole process but i don't believe that it does in any way. Both are extremely nice machines. I currently use Elna 7300 for FM and have good luck with it. I went that route bc I wanted more versatility in a machine that took up so much space in my sewing room. I do like vertical bobbins best for FM but I've got the Elna tweaked so that i don't get eye-lashes on the back at all and practically never have thread-breaks.

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Date: 8/11/11 0:22 AM

I have used both Janome 1600P and Juki 2010q on my frame. The Janome got sent back. It is significantly heavier and vibrated like crazy -- I think it is unbalanced or something. Perhaps it is really best for machine quilting off a frame. I had alot of problems getting it not to shred thread due to friction despite use of topstitch size 16 needle, 0 tension etc. (I do have previous fmq on frame with my computerized machine). The thread cutter was so loud it sounded like I broke the machine every time I used it..
but I didn't. Off the frame it sewed fine. Juki is quieter, including the thread cutter and is 25 lbs vs 35lbs. Big difference when hoisting up onto the carriage. I could not do very fine patterns smoothly, free motion, on the Janome although I do know people of people who have good success with pantographs with the Janome. I returned the Janome -- do love the convertible quilting foot set though!! (not compatible with Juki )

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Date: 11/11/11 10:07 AM

Raicher has the Juki tl-2010 right now for 799 with free shipping....

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Date: 11/11/11 11:21 AM

I just reviewed the Juki again, since I've had it a year now:
http://www.createdbycj.com/from-my-studio/2011/11/9/a-year-with-the-juki-tl2010q.html

In this review is a link to my original review (which is more in depth). Also, over on the right side of my website is a link to my YouTube section, I just uploaded a brief video of the Juki sewing next to my Bernina 630, as someone asked me to hear it running.

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Date: 11/11/11 2:19 PM

Thank you for the info! I have been so tempted to purchase one lately. I bought the Janome 1600p-dbx and to be honest i have not bonded with it. I have tried but it is noisy and changing the needles is a challenge. Not great at pivoting. All of these could be user error for sure but I have tried so hard to like it. The only thing I would miss the separate bobbin winder that the Juki does not have.

Also, do you know if the needle on Juki is as strong as the db needles on the janome?

Thanks again

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Date: 11/11/11 6:32 PM

You can use Organ needles on it, I just use Schmetz 75/11 quilting needles on mine, since all I do is piece on it.

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