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feeling unsure about surefit
Calendria   Advanced Beginner AK USA Member since 7/4/05 Posts: 601	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 7/5/11 7:13 PM I bought surefit and I haven't gotten it in yet. well, I just talked to my aunt deana and she and afriend of hers had used it before. it didn't work well for them at all. it didn't fit at all. now I'm feeling unsure. I asked and they didn't make any alterations to the muslin of the sloper. am I correct in this? you ARE supposed to make alterations to the sloper if the muslin doesn't fit correctly? please help!?!
msladyj Intermediate WI USA Member since 1/14/07 Posts: 222	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 7/5/11 9:00 PM Yes you are suppose to make alteration to you muslin to make it fit. You than transfer those alterations back to you pattern so it is an accurate blueprint for you. Try it an if you have problems Glenda is always willing to help as are the many ladies here on PR that have had good results. ------ Jennifer Reinventing yourself is like a butterfly emerging from a cocoon- a fresh, new start. Excerpt from Nothing to Wear http://jtscloset-jen.blogspot.com/
Miss Fairchild   Advanced USA Member since 8/24/02 Posts: 7110	Login to reply to this post In reply to Calendria Like this post Date: 7/6/11 3:11 PM Forgive me, but I'm really confused by your question. Let me make sure I understand. A while back, June 23, in the Pattern Modifications board you posted that you were going to use both Sure Fit and Fit Nice to "proof" your patterns. That thread is HERE The very last message on that thread was a post by you saying that you were going to focus on pattern making and muslins; that you weren't new to pattern making and that you enjoyed it. So here's where I'm confused. Based on your own words, in that previous thread, and based on what you say above, something's not right. For one thing, there is a section in Glenda's Instruction Book that specifically works on the pattern adjustments that one has to make in order to get the muslin to fit. If your aunt and her friend didn't make these adjustments, of course, the pattern wouldn't fit and not work well for them. I'm sorry but I don't see the logic in your statement. ------ "We don't impose our rhythm on Nature. The key is to respect and live within Her." Jean-Charles Boisset, Winemaker "And no, now that you asked, I didn't enjoy that play one bit, and I'd like a refund" Signed, Mrs. Lincoln My Etsy shop: auntmaymesattic My blog: auntmaymesattic.wordpress.com Avatar: First place award for jacket at county fair
KathySews   Advanced Beginner MI USA Member since 10/1/06 Posts: 2916	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 7/6/11 3:54 PM I have made the best fitting pants from this. Yes I made a muslin, yes I made some adjustments. But overall, this is a good system. If you are unsure, use it to find out for yourself
Calendria   Advanced Beginner AK USA Member since 7/4/05 Posts: 601	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 7/6/11 7:55 PM heres teh logic - I had decided on surefit because I was told that fitnice was just a pattern, thats it. it wouldn't deal with pattern alteration. my aunt and her friends experience with surefit sort of confused me because i've heard good things from surefit adn I had told her that you wer supposed to make alterations but the lady said no, it was supposed to fit out of the box. that was it.
Miss Fairchild   Advanced USA Member since 8/24/02 Posts: 7110	Login to reply to this post In reply to Calendria Like this post Date: 7/6/11 9:43 PM Quote: I had told her that you wer supposed to make alterations but the lady said no, it was supposed to fit out of the box. Hmm. I'm curious as to "what lady"; could you please tell me what you mean, because I'm confused. I don't understand how you or your aunt and her friend could think that something fits "out of the box". The only thing that fits "out of the box" is a pattern that is made with one's exact measurements--all 72 of them, exact alterations for high hip, round shoulders, etc., and one would have to be the exact replica of a dress form, because it is a dress form that creates the basis for patterns. You've seen this information posted here on PR and you've had it answered to you in other threads. You said you've drafted patterns and I'm sure you know that people are all different; why would patterns be drafted differently? That's where I'm not getting your logic. You're right--Fit Nice is just a pattern; I told you that in the thread. And I also explained to you that Sure Fit would be a better choice to proof your patterns, as you said you wanted to do and had experience. Based on what you said, you sounded like you knew what I was talking about. And now you don't? What did I leave out? Forgive me, I want to help but I'm not understanding you. ------ "We don't impose our rhythm on Nature. The key is to respect and live within Her." Jean-Charles Boisset, Winemaker "And no, now that you asked, I didn't enjoy that play one bit, and I'd like a refund" Signed, Mrs. Lincoln My Etsy shop: auntmaymesattic My blog: auntmaymesattic.wordpress.com Avatar: First place award for jacket at county fair
Calendria   Advanced Beginner AK USA Member since 7/4/05 Posts: 601	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 7/7/11 0:25 AM never mind, never mind. I was confused because their experience was so opposite of what everyone else was saying about surefit. it wasn't my logic, it was theirs. and the lady was supposed to be someone trained in teaching the surefit process to others. apparently it didn't work because my aunt says that because i'm young and smart enough I should be able work out the difficult process. anyways. thanx.
msladyj Intermediate WI USA Member since 1/14/07 Posts: 222	Login to reply to this post In reply to Calendria Like this post Date: 7/7/11 0:54 AM I think what happens a lot of time is people say things to make a sale. When I first heard out about sure-fit years ago I thought the same thing. I tried and tried and never could make it work so I sold my set about six or seven years back. Then I found PR and learned that there is something called fit. Through the ladies and gents here learned about fitting books and classes. And now realize my errors with Sure-fit were mine not the system. Calendia, truly give sure-fit a try. If you need help with fit well creating your blueprint pattern ask. Many of us will help. I understand. Don't worry what your mommy, auntie or second cousin twice removed experience was. Only thought should be this system is going to work for me and I'm going to learn from it. In sewing very few people fit any pattern, pattern making system or from scratch pattern draft straight "out of the box". That is often a long and discouraging fact to learn. Many sewers give up before they get to that understanding. One thing I've noticed is that you ask a lot of questions. That's a good thing. Now the next step is to start applying some of the answers to your own work. Who knows maybe your own success with sure-fit will have your relatives wanting to give it another try. -- Edited on 7/7/11 0:59 AM -- ------ Jennifer Reinventing yourself is like a butterfly emerging from a cocoon- a fresh, new start. Excerpt from Nothing to Wear http://jtscloset-jen.blogspot.com/
Calendria   Advanced Beginner AK USA Member since 7/4/05 Posts: 601	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 7/7/11 4:08 AM oh yeah, I can already think of a few pattern alterations i'll have to be making to the master slopers. no worries there - sway back anyone? thanx so much. finally someone who understands what my dilemma was. thanx. I'm viewing the dvd tonight and reading the manual. tomorrow I'll draw the master patterns, god willing. thanx.
Miss Fairchild   Advanced USA Member since 8/24/02 Posts: 7110	Login to reply to this post In reply to Calendria Like this post Date: 7/7/11 7:07 PM That's interesting, because I didn't think there was anyone trained to teach the Surefit Process. Maybe you're confused with Lutterloh? Which is another system all together. I've had the Surefit System since 1994, and I never encountered anyone who was "trained in the process". It seems your aunt has faith in you; show her how good you really are!! And I echo everything that Msladyj says! -- Edited on 7/7/11 7:09 PM -- ------ "We don't impose our rhythm on Nature. The key is to respect and live within Her." Jean-Charles Boisset, Winemaker "And no, now that you asked, I didn't enjoy that play one bit, and I'd like a refund" Signed, Mrs. Lincoln My Etsy shop: auntmaymesattic My blog: auntmaymesattic.wordpress.com Avatar: First place award for jacket at county fair

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