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TheProfessorsWife
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Date: 7/15/11 7:26 PM

Hello all,

I've been slowly working on Simplicity 2363, but have run into some major fitting issues. I'm trying to decide whether or not the project is worth saving- or whether I should just scrap it and start over.

I've detailed the fitting woes on my blog. (I spent so long insert all of the pictures, that I thought I would just post the link, instead of starting over). I certainly would appreciate your advice!!

http://theprofessorswife.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/advice-please/#comments

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Date: 7/15/11 8:06 PM

Say, The ProfessorsWife, that little white dot blouse with the ruffles is really nice, as are all of your creations.

The forward facing pose of Simplicity 2363 tells a very interesting story. Often, someone will convert gathers to small pleats or just one or two pleats. But that pouch thing you mentioned may be redeemable, although, I can't imagine where it came from. For starters, stand in front of the mirror and see about how much length creates the pouch. Then, dress as is, pin that amount up and under the floral bodice. You may even be pinning up in an inverted bell curve with as much as 3/4" in the center. It will be rough pinned up, but should give you an idea of whether or not it will then be worthwhile to rip out the seam between the bottom of the floral bodice panel and the front center skirt panel and make that adjustment. I think it will be worth your time. When you do this, pin first, keeping the skirt panel top flat and the bodice panel bottom flat and both overlapped. Work with vertical pinning until you can get that downward pulling pouch of fabric pulled up and eased out. When you think you have gotten close, give it a nice steaming to look again.

So, you can really think of that portion of your dress as fitting up a skirt and separately fitting up a short top and then combining the two. Additionally, I wonder if perhaps the bodice allowed for to much outward curve for bust for your figure allowing the hanging down effect in front???? It's pretty, divide the parts and conquer. Your past projects show your capabilities. Looking forward to seeing what you do.

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Date: 7/15/11 8:24 PM

I feel your pain. It stinks out loud when a vision doesn't work, esp. with a good fabric. At least it's only a LITTLE good fabric. I've done worse.

First of all, my opinion will probably be slightly bias. I just. can't. like. that pattern. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...well...it's a muu muu. Meaning, if the pattern pictures make you say "hmmm...." and the reviews say "no," take heed. That may be one of my biggest sewing lessons...to follow my gut. It's rare that I end up ever really liking a pattern I'm questionable about. But that's all for next time, isn't it.

As for the specifics. IMHO, the balance is off. The dark, heavyish print really stands out from the delicate pink, making it scream BIB. At the very least I would use a darker color for the dress (and I would just buy more fabric...wouldn't mess w/ the RIT). My off-the-wall, don't-know-but-maybe? idea....a thin, vertical strip in the same color way for the body of the dress. But again, it would have to have an emphasis on the darker colors. It can't be pastel. I don't know if you could find the right fabric or if it would even look good. All I know is that print on a solid as is just doesn't work for me. There's just too much bib.

I'm hoping you can salvage your LOL, but I wouldn't send too much good money after bad. It's only a 1/2 yd and if you aren't happy, you aren't happy. I suspect this dress is not going to be the dress you hoped for regardless (but that's just my opinion). Perhaps it could be "parted out" as a really pretty collar stand, sleeve/button placket, or something else special...and small. And actually, saying that just gave me an idea for my precious scraps when I get brave enough to cut into mine. :)

Good luck and keep us posted. I'm anxious to see what other creative ideas you get!

Eve

P.S. - I like your idea of buying more LOL and revamping the entire thing into a top better than trying to salvage the dress. You could save some $ and do some cute cap or elasticated sleeves, too.
-- Edited on 7/15/11 8:29 PM --

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Date: 7/17/11 3:25 PM

Thank you so much a7yrstitch and EveS for your helpful comments. You inspired me to tackle the project again. EveS thank you for your kind comments about the bib. I think that you are right. I decided to heed your advice and take out the Liberty of London fabric and make the whole thing out of the pink chambray. Perhaps I can find a charcoal gray and make a shirt just using the front bib piece?

A7yrstitch, I ripped out the side skirt and bodice seams to tackle the “pouch.” The front and back skirt panels are wider than the bodice front and back. Therefore I had to taper the skirt seams to meet up with the width of the bodice seams. As of yesterday, the dress showed a bit of promise. I also took in another 0.5” or so on all of the skirt seams. I think that you were right with the curve of the bust line too—I took in these seams a bit.

EveS, I also thought that your comments about the mumu were funny. I actually think that this pattern would make a great flannel nightgown. The mumu shape – possibly floor length and with long sleeves would be perfect for the cool winter nights.

I’m hoping to finish the dress this week. Since it is fitting a bit better at this point, I think it’s worth pushing ahead and seeing what the final product will look like. If it doesn’t turn out pretty, perhaps I’ll just use it at a nightgown or a swim cover-up. I do think that I am going to shirr the waistline- perhaps around ¾ of the wait, leaving the front panel untouched.

I’ll post pictures when I get it finished- whether it turns out or not. Again, thank you so much for your helpful feedback!!!

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Date: 7/17/11 9:31 PM

Glad you are coming along on the dress. Everything you learn in fitting and styling this one will come in handy later.

Hey, EveS, are you saying my mumu quacks? I had to laugh because I always said I would not wear a mumu. Now, I've threatened to write a book, Everything You Can Do, I Can Do in a MuMU. I wear mine to the pool and the beach. Mostly since I have found that in a pinch, you can change your clothes under the silly thing! Luckily, the sun had already set one evening when I suggested to my husband that he use it for a changing tent after a quick stop over at a beach with no changing facilities.

TheProfessorsWife, looking forward to seeing how you finish out your dress. And, also looking forward to seeing another picture of your lovely setting. Hope you make something in the fall so we can see it then too.

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Date: 7/19/11 9:48 PM

The mumu comments are cracking me up! I am happy to report that the dress is as fixed as it can be. I'm going to try to get decent pictures of it and post about it this week. Unfortunately the only thing I couldn't fix was the color. I do wish that it was a deeper pink color. I feel like my pale skin just blends right in. I guess that is what I get for not looking in a mirror before I bought the fabric.

I do think that I'll make it again-- this time out of flannel. It would be so comfy as a winter night gown!

Thanks for all of your advice and support!

And yes, our setting is just beautiful in the winter. We have lots of trees in our back yard and a small lake/pond. It's a huge blessing from my husband- I "married into" the house.

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Date: 7/19/11 10:06 PM

Looking forward to seeing the fit of your finished dress and ignoring the color. I have the same problem with light beigy things. With beige/ivory skin and almost blonde, but not brown hair, everything just turns to one mushy color. So, perhaps you'll take a hot steaming mug of cocoa out outside in your flannel nightgown this winter and take a picture for us!

Would it help to dye the dress just a little bit darker shade?

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Date: 7/23/11 11:17 AM

My idea is that it is just lacking balance in color. I can see it as a very nice top using one of the colors in the Liberty of London fabric across the bottom of the top. Another possibility is a belt. I think if you pick a darker color (even black) to add it will balance it out. I've posted pics below. Just an opinion. I'm not an expert. (PS I don't see where the gathers hurt the look and fit of this piece on you at all.)

A couple of colors shown here:
http://www.friendsofpr.com/LeighRae/LOL.gif

Raelene
-- Edited on 7/23/11 11:47 AM --

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Date: 7/26/11 9:17 PM

Hello all,

I'm sorry for my delay in responding- I was visiting dear friends in Dallas. These comments are quite helpful. I especially like your picture, LeighRae. I wish that I had seen it prior to ripping apart the dress.

I do think that I will attempt to salvage the Liberty of London print and turn it into a tunic. Everyone's comments point me toward using a dark background fabric. Perhaps I'll be able to find a nice dark gray cotton lawn to use as the background for the tunic. That would probably also help it to look more like a fall garment.

I've finished the dress and have posted the progress online. http://theprofessorswife.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/saved-from-the-trash-can/

Thank you all again for your wonderful help!

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Date: 7/26/11 11:47 PM

Checked out your pictures, way too go! Since you had already put so much work into the dress it would have been a shame to have curtailed the beginning to end learning experience. Will you be sizing down on your pattern next time or do you think this one just had too much ease in it too start with?

The dress is charming. Although you may not wear it to work, I'm sure that the professor is delighted to come home and find you decked out in a pretty pink dress.

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