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Message Board > Sergers, Coverstitch and Blindhemmers > Bernina 800DL OR Brother 5234 Project runway serger ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

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Bernina 800DL OR Brother 5234 Project runway serger
Which one would you choose and why?
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Date: 8/3/11 0:45 AM

I'm looking at the Bernina 800Dl ($900) and the Brother 5234 Project Runway($700) sergers..... I looked at the Elna 745 today ($900)- and I was impressed but I don't think I need to get a combo machine- unless its worlds better than the other two??
I was very impressed with the rolled hem stitch on the Bernina..the Brother didn't seem to have as nice a one, but the other stitches were good. They both seemed like solid machines, and quiet. The Elna had a great rolled hem- and the other stitches seemed ok.
I can only find one review on the Brother 5234 PRW- If you own one can you tell me what you're experience has been??? Can somone compare it to the Bernina for me? How do both of these compare to the Elna? Which would I expect to hold up the longest? Which one would you choose and why?

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Date: 8/3/11 4:53 PM

I meant to add I need to buy one soon - any help would be so appreciated!!!

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Date: 8/3/11 8:28 PM

I own the Bernina 800DL and a Janome 644, which is almost identical to the Janome 744 (and the instructional DVD covers both, the insides look very similar indeed) but according to my dealership the 644D is more durable and produces fewer long term problems than they've seen on the 744 Janome) I believe internally the Elnas at every level are essentially the same as Janome since Janome make the Elna machines, they just have different shaped plastic covers and different coloured thread paths. When I opened up a few models to compare there were the same screws, nuts. bolts and same shaped parts in the same places inside comparable machines.

I was told the 654 Elna which is the equivalent to the 644D Janome sews, feels and produdes exactly the same stitches because essentially in all ways that matter, they are the exact same machine except for cosmetic differences. They are produced so dealerships that only sell Elna can sell them and the Janome dealerships that only sell Janome can sell essentially the same machine. And Janome control Elna so they are happy either way.
I am not sure how the Elna 745 with the 5 thread does a rolled hem because I didn't try that machine, but I can say there is a big difference to my eye to the quality of the rolled hem on the Bernina compared to the Janome I own- much more consistent and even looper wraps. Both are easy to set up to sew but the Bernina is more consistently even- the other machine leaves occasional gaps that are wider in the rolled hem revealing fabric between the stitches. Overall its stitches are less perfectly neat, but they are functional and will plough through some heavier fabrics no problems.

I think the best test would be to load the 745 with the same needle and thread, as the Bernina 800DL and test sew both on the same fabric to compare for yourself.

If you are particular about rolled hemming you might like also to know my dealership recommends the Bernina as being superior for rolled hemming (and they sell a total of 5 different brands of overlockers). They steer you to which ever machine delivers the best performance on the criteria that is most important to you.

I cannot comment on the Brother machines from sewing perspective, but I know the mechanic gets alot of Brother overlockers sold in another store turning up at their repair workshop. More plastic parts and lower quality metals that fatigue faster, I think they said- and for that reason they do not sell or recommend them.
Hope that's helpful??
-- Edited on 8/3/11 8:56 PM --

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Date: 8/3/11 11:53 PM

We just got the Elna 664, 664PRO and the 745Lock. Unless youm really need that 5 thread of the 745 and love to change things over in your machine, I would go with the 664PRO. Its a 2-3-4 machine. I threaded it right out of the box, ran fabric through and it was perfect. Has a lower looper threader helper like the Bernina (made by Juki). I would pick the Elna 664Pro or the Bernina 800DL and forget the Brother machine. We have that one too.

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Date: 8/4/11 1:11 PM

Thank you Quilting Queen and Mrs. Moos! Your posts helped clear up my confusion and answer some of my questions. I am leaning towards the 800DL because of the consist. stitches and the incredible support from the store staff that I see.
I am worried about the Brother 5234 PRW machine- I can't find much information about it on the web at all....that doesn't seem like a good thing to me.. Mrs. Moos- are you all having trouble with it in your store?
I'm thinking that I'll probably decide this weekend.
Thanks again for your help!

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Date: 8/7/11 10:57 AM

The Bernina is essentially the same machine as the Juki 654DE and I *love* my Juki. The first time I did a rolled hem ever I was terrified and it turned out perfectly. Also, it really does cut through any fabric with no hesitation at all. I don't think I will ever buy any other Serger :).

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Subject: Bernina 800DL OR Brother 5234 Project runway serger/Bought the Bernina!!!!!!!!! Date: 8/21/11 7:39 PM

I Bought the Bernina and I love it!!!!!!!!!!!It makes the best looking rolled hem. I also bought the cover stitch machine- the Coverpro / the newest one- and I love it too. Thank you for all the help ladies!!! You're the best!I can't get over all the help here.
Blessings to you all,
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