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leandam
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Date: 9/26/11 3:46 AM

I am finally getting to the end of the wedding dress for my DD. Yes, I will absolutely be posting lots about it when I get it completed including pictures.
I have decided to work on the veil but found what I thought would be the easiest job to be, as usual, more complicated than I thought.
I bought some tulle off the internet earlier in the project as I thought I would be needing it for the dress but we changed our mind. It is barely 140cm (54inch) wide and to my concern, rather stretchy. Please excuse my ignorance but is it supposed to be stretchy when used for a veil?
I have been looking at websites checking out different styles of veils this morning. Who knew there were so many?
I have bought Vogue 8374 and it requires 108inch tulle. View A is a single layer, cut in a basic square shape with corners rounded and gathered.
Views B & C are circular cut.
As I am after a finger tip length with two layers (so one layer can be brought forward during the ceremony) I have ruled out View C.
View B appears to have 2 circles cut out and I am worried about the amount of 'gathering' obscuring the back of her dress.

I think I am just in overload at all these veil options and starting to go a little "nuts".

Number 1 - should my tulle be so stretchy? I am thinking I might need to look for more tulle.
Number 2 - Does anyone have any suggestions on favoured styles of making veils. I know that it can't be too hard, but working out the design seems to be the most puzzling.
My DD wants to wear the veil below her upstyle and her hairdresser has suggested gathering the veil onto some ribbon and attaching some small loops for her to pin it to the style.
If I decided to go with the rectangular pattern idea and perhaps add another layer for over the face, would I gather the two layers together at the top and edge stitch around the lot? I guess if I had wider tulle I would just fold it and do this.
I wondered if the circular idea would look neater as it wouldn't have two lots of edging next to the face, just a fold.



I have had another look at the V8374 view B as I thought it was odd for it to call for 2 circular pieces to be cut. The instructions call for each circle to be folded in half and sewn together at the cut out in the centre. They are then folded AGAIN before being gathered and attached to whatever you use to secure to the hair style. So in fact, there are multiple layers and I don't think it is intended to be brought forward during the ceremony.

I am wondering about using one circle, folding in half, gathering and covering with ribbon for attachment.
This should allow the front to go over the face and then be put back after the ceremony.
I want to put some small beaded lace in spots (I'll decide where when I get the veil pattern sorted) near the bottom of the veil to coordinate with the beaded lace on the dress. I realise that I will have to put the lace on both sides of the front part of the veil as it will be showing both sides at different times of the day. If they are small, that shouldn't be a problem and might help to keep the veil anchored as it is often windy where she is to be married.
I was also going to attempt a 2 thread overlock edge but of course will have a trial run first

Also wondered about an oval shape to make the front veil shorter?
I am certainly working this back and forth in my head.

With any luck others will chime in here more advice and I will be able to use it to help with my decision.

Thanks so much,

Leanda

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Date: 9/26/11 3:29 PM

I just did this gig less than 3 weeks ago when my DD got married. Has your DD put up her hair in a general aprox of the style she wants and gone to any bridal shops to 'try on' a veil? That can really nail down what's going to work with headpiece and veil styles.
In our case DD tried and nixed tiara w back veil ( wrong for her head shape) combs with embellishment ( they slid out her short straight fine hair too easily & she HATES bobby pins) and hat/caps types totally did not go with the dress.
In the end, she tried on my old veil and really liked the style..a wide headband that allowed the embellishment to frame her face and had plenty of room to attach the veil and hide metal combs that would not come off easily.
The veil itself was just a single piece of plain tulle ( and yeah it is rather stretchy) rectangle that was rounded at the corners. I folded It so that one part was shorter ( the blusher veil) and then gathered the folded edge leaving 18 in from the sides so it made more of a cascade effect.
I think the hardest part of veiling was just getting the piece squared up - thank goodness for pattern weights. Later, my MIL said using freezer paper might have helped, but oh well.. I also used a bit less than the 108 in width ..it was a fingertip length on a petite girl and it seemed full enough. This worked because we really wanted to focus to be on her face and front, so the veil was really just a soft cloud of transition that helped balance out our girl who had no full hairdo and smallish head down to her bustled, beaded, dress. I wish I'd had time to scatter a few clear sequins, but on the whole she was happy with it. It withstood of her photo antics and didn't overpower.

One resource I found VERY helpful on how to make headpieces and cut the veil was this book ( it was in our library):
I Do Veils by Claudia Lynch

I used the instructions to cut the veil and did gathering by machine, whipstitched by hand to the headpiece.
HTH
Shel

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Date: 9/27/11 3:15 PM

I've bought some tulle (in fact, a lot of tulle - 10m long and 1.5m wide!) in case I wanted to have an overlay for my dress and with the surplus to make a veil. I haven't made the veil yet but the tulle that I bought is not stretchy which of course does not mean that they can't be.

I agree that it's important to decide what veil to have based on the face shape etc. As I have a round face, I will be making a 'bubble' veil of some sort and place it at the top of my head to my my face look less round...

Although I haven't started making it yet (it's lower down the list of my priorities for now...) I have bought the Buttericks 4487 pattern which includes lots of variations. so you may want to look at that for more options?

HTH and I think I'll be able to help more once I get to make my veil...

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Date: 9/28/11 7:25 PM

Thanks for the advice Shel. And yes, it helps a lot to hear what you did with your veil project. I appreciate you taking the time :-)
I headed off to Lincraft and found that their tulle was stretchy as well - guess I will have to deal with that!
However I bought some wider tulle in a softer white that better matches the dress than the original narrow tulle did.
I am going to have a play around with a few ideas today and tomorrow and hopefully come up with a plan for the veil that works for my daughter.
Leanda

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Date: 9/28/11 7:30 PM

Thanks Alice.
I bought the original tulle because I thought we would be using it for an exposed section at the hem of my daughter's dress, only to change our minds.
You are so right about the veil matching face shape. I also needed "height" in my veil as I have a round face. My daughter wants to have her veil attached at the back of her head and is definitely not keen on any puffiness at the top.
I also found that I will need to drape the veil over the dress to get an idea of what sort of decoration I will need/not need for it.
It is the finishing touch and I want it to really 'set off' the dress for my daughter.
Keep up the lovely work with your dress...it is going to be wonderful.
Leanda

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Date: 9/29/11 7:30 PM

Tulle is made from various fibers. The tulle you find at most stores is a poly and may stretch a bit. Tulle is also made in cotton or silk. Cotton tulle, which I love, is very stretchy and really needs to be ironed into submission carefully before cutting. Silk tulle is also made. I have seen but haven't worked with it so can't say.

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Date: 9/30/11 7:14 AM

I agree with snoop shopping the veils. You don't have to tell them you are sewing it all. Let her try on a dress similar in shape to the one she will be wearing and then try on veil styles with it. This makes it all so easy as seeing what compliments the dress and that she likes really helps. Most of the purchased veils are expensive and are so simple to knock off. In fact we bought the jeweled comb accessorie that was almost identical right at the shop we were trying on. What I thought she liked and wanted in a veil was no where close to what she had in mind so the time outlay to the big bridal shop was really helpful. I have made 4 through the years and I am so done with wedding sewing I hope.

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Date: 9/30/11 4:53 PM

Have you checked out any of the gads of veil tutorials online? Odds are you won't even need a pattern. I'm making a veil for a costume project (not a wedding), but I've been reading up on a bunch of DIY sites, and there are some terrific ones out there. Here's one I really like:
http://www.chicaandjo.com/2008/04/08/make-your-own-wedding-veil/ Lots of diagrams and tips on cutting, edgings, gathering and attaching to headpieces, etc.

Have fun!

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Date: 9/30/11 6:14 PM

I made the veil for my daughter's wedding about three years ago and it's not rocket science. You can do it and it will look beautiful. We bought twice as much tulle as we thought we'd need and did a dry run to see how it looked. We got the shape she wanted on the first try so we had a lot left over. She wore her hair up, and I hand stitched the tulle to a wide clear comb that sat almost at the back of her head. She had looked at others in magazines and in stores so she knew how she wanted it to look. Then I sewed pearls from broken necklaces onto a piece of satin that we attached to the comb. She bought her dress so we just had to match the color of the dress. It was a candlelight color and the old pearls matched beautifully. Enjoy this special opportunity to make lasting memories.

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Date: 9/30/11 11:51 PM

I really wish I could check out some veils but my daughter lives on the other side of the country and so we are talking on the phone about it.
Wow, 4 veils. Impressive. I imagine this will be the only one, but then who knows?

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