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Date: 10/2/11 2:36 PM

I have a opportunity to purchase a used Babylock Ellageo ESG - the machine was purchased new in 2000. The lady selling doesn't know much about it, it belonged to her mother. It takes floppies, or embroidery cards. She originallly wanted $1500 for the machine with accessories (including a card writer) and designs. Since we found on the card it was older than she believed she said she will need to take less and would listen to offers - I don't know how much this machine sold for new, or what might be reasonable to offer. I don't know how to check the stitch count on the machine - can anyone tell me?

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Date: 10/4/11 8:38 PM

You can check the stitch count on the on-screen settings. I used to have this machine -- I don't remember how many pages of settings there are, but it is at the bottom of one of the pages.

If you want to know what they are going for, I would suggest a search on eBay for closed auctions. I sold mine for $1100 about 18 months ago. You could also check the Yahoo Group SewItsForSale for other listings for an idea on the going rate.

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Date: 10/4/11 9:39 PM

Check the back of the machine for the exact number, the ESG was the first and it didn't have the stitch count built in. That was added with the ESG2& ESG3 2003 models. I purchased an ESG3 3 years ago for around $900 with software and it only had 40000 stitches.

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Date: 10/4/11 10:21 PM

does the machine look like this?

the starting bid on this machine starts at 850. Which i think is a fair price. Good luck with the machine.

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Date: 10/6/11 7:57 AM

thanks for the advice. I have narrowed my search to 2 used machines - the Babylock Ellageo ESG, and a Viking Designer 1. Both the same price range, but the Babylock comes with a lot of accessories, disks, embroidery designs, case, etc. but from a private sale, no warranty, or service record. The Viking D1 comes from a dealner, has a 60 day warranty, and a 50% parts warranty for 1 year, but no accessories or designs. I understand the Viking can be upgraded to USB, but the Babylock can't be upgraded from floppies. also is it true that the Babylock can't use designs created in newer versions of Pallette than installed on the PC? I believe it has an older version that might not be compatible with Windows 7. Would love to have all the designs/accessories, but the warranty/dealer support is swaying me toward the Viking. I appreciate everyone's comments as I try to make a good decision.

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Date: 10/6/11 3:19 PM

The older BL should not have any issues with the newer versions of windows.

Can your PC use floppies?

Make sure you get the reader/writer box and a rewritable memory card in the required format for the machine.

I would not pay over $500 for a 12 + year EM.

You can ask many of your questions at the Baby Lock Website


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Date: 10/7/11 11:55 AM

I believe the upgrade to USB for the Viking machine was in the $700+ range and the speed of the machine isn't as fast as when they are built with the USB. I have the Babylock ESG and have no problems saving new embroidery designs created in the software, they have to be within the 6x10 or smaller. Brother makes the Babylocks and parts are available for a very long time. If there is no software with the machine than you can get the Brother PE lite (or Babylock equal.) the machine has a second slot built in to accept memory cards. The only issues with older software if the connection is a big 10 pin serial port used from old printers rather than USB, and some of the older versions don't work with the 64bit computer. Can you find a Babylock dealer near you to find out about servicing and cost of lessons. The Viking only uses floppies and you must have their program to program them. Ask another Viking dealer about parts availability and cost of missing accessories.

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Date: 10/7/11 2:05 PM

I bought the same model around 2 years ago for $900. I think if you can get it for less than that, you will be very happy! It has so much great built in patterns and the sewing stitch is very nice! Good luck!

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Date: 10/7/11 4:56 PM

Lots of good information here, thanks. The Viking D1 is from a Dealer who will offer 60 days full warranty, and 1 year 50% warranty, that makes it appealing, plus their tech has gone over it. The Babylock is from an estate sale, unfortunately the family does not know anything about the machine, even if everything in the case belongs to that Babylock machine, it has a lot of floppies and designs with it though. Price on the Viking if upgraded to USB is approx $1500, price on the Babylock is $1500 with the designs, but strictly as is condition. It's a tough decision for me. I talked to Babylock and they say the machine can't be upgraded from floppies. I have seen the D1 do an embroidery design, have not been able to see the Babylock working. This weekend will be my decision making time. both machines were purchased new in 2000. I like both of them based on what I know so far.

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Date: 10/8/11 0:03 AM

Brother ULT instruction book

With the exception of the "my custom stitch" the Babylock functions the same as the Brother. This will show you everything that came with the machine. Here's a link to the Babylock site ESG3 it gives some specs.

Choose what feels right for you.

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