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Bernina 580 any one have one? Any bought or tested the 580 thoughts?
Artsewer   Intermediate NY USA Member since 3/2/11 Posts: 1244	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 10/10/11 4:27 PM Hi I just tested the new Bernina 580. I have to say I went in for machine oil and there it was. I had to try it out. It is so quiet. Smooth, lovely. Im seriously thinking of trading my 635 for it. Ive been looking at a used 640 but now I think I like this machine even more. It has some great embroidery features that are more in line with the 830. It is quiet. Oh I already said that :). Thoughts? ------ Bernina 750Q, 635E, 380, Serger 1100DC
SewBusy63 Advanced IA USA Member since 12/10/07 Posts: 3193	Login to reply to this post In reply to Artsewer Like this post Date: 10/10/11 5:25 PM Nancy, What did you think about all the different screens to get to icons compared to the 635? It's the newest technology and having some of the features like the 830 is a bonus. Does it have the hover feature? ------ ~Diana~ ♥ Bernina 830E ♥ Bernina 1150MDA serger ✝The Lord is my Light and my Salvation: whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? Psalm 27:1✝
Artsewer   Intermediate NY USA Member since 3/2/11 Posts: 1244	Login to reply to this post In reply to SewBusy63 Like this post Date: 10/10/11 6:45 PM Hi Sewbusy, No hoover. otherwise no brainer.....lol I loved it. I dont know the screens confused me a bit. Im going to go back tomorrow and check it out more thoughly. I bought my 635 so I can trade in the full price I paid for in exchange for it towards MSRP. Which is much more (1900) then the floor price. That is where they get you. But I would be able to trade in the machine with embroid. and bsr. Honestly I dont need the bsr. I do fine without it. So its just sitting in my desk. The embroidery is more advanced so that is a plus. I dont know what embroidery designs are built into the machine. I need to look on the Bernina web site. Is does this machine have the same format screen as your 830? If they are using the same computer tech as the 830, that should make it less troublesome. Like no bugs as they have already been worked out with the 800's. No duel feed I bet they come out with one more machine, and that will have duel feed and hoover but with the standard harp space. And they will replace the 630 at some point with to include duel feed. Just guessing.... ------ Bernina 750Q, 635E, 380, Serger 1100DC
Maia B   Advanced Beginner IL USA Member since 10/27/10 Posts: 3404	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 10/10/11 7:08 PM Nancy, I've been thinking about your dilemma all weekend. Did you get the 430? I was wondering about the weight difference between the models you are considering, if one is to be a travel machine. I would have thought the 640 and 430 to be an excellent combo, but then your test drive of the 640 was underwhelming. I think you should LOVE whatever you get as much as the 635. My 820 is my only machine with auto cut, and it works beautifully, but it doesn't yet seem indispensable. Since I don't know about thread painting, I don't know how essential auto cut might be. I know I'm a multiple machines gal. I use the 3 modern Bernies all the time, the QP at least monthly now at my mom's, and the vintage machines less only because they aren't set up due to lack of space. If the interface and screen of the 580 is like the 820/830, then that's a big plus. Regardless of features, you've got to love how a machine feels when you sew. ------ 🌸 Plenty of machines, mostly Berninas 🌸
threaddy   Advanced WY USA Member since 4/22/09 Posts: 2313	Login to reply to this post In reply to Artsewer Like this post Date: 10/10/11 8:21 PM I keep looking at the comparison chart Andye posted on another thread(I think it is the 5 series one) and thought about the 450 for a travel machine. I love my 730 way too much to take her out of the house...so I was looking for a knock around machine that could still do it all...embroider and BSR for all those type of classes and general schlep machine. I just took a FMQ class and applique class from Sue Nichols (she is awesome BTW!!!) and took my 1630. I then went home and practiced all the techniques on my 730. The whole process was great. I did not worry about my 1630 since she is a tank. I even left her under a table for a day while I was elsewhere and had no worries. With the 450 I would not have done that...my 1630 only cost me $500 since I bought her used but the 450 would be about $2600...too much to risk. Therefore my thinking totally changed. I will take my 1630 to classes and come home and practice on my 730 with the BSR and all the extra features. I have been hauling my 730 to the cabin and don't want to risk that either...so I still am in the market for another machine...even with the class issue solved. The 450 could still do it all...the BSR and embroidery albeit EC to PC. But then someone told me the embroidery on the 450 is a hassle...it is not just hooking up the computer to the machine...apparently the process is different with the software etc. more hassles is NOT NOT NOT what I need in my life right now..(see the closet purge thread). My sewing is my head therapy ...tune out and sew. Then I thought the 640 would be the answer but the 580 looks like it has so much more...drag and drop editing...basting around the design...buttonhole width change...all things I would definitely use!!! I am anxious to hear others thought on this machine as it looks to be a winner. I only want a 9mm...I have an old 930 4 mm and an 1130 5.5 which answer for those needs. I personally find way more uses with the 9mm. { Again I need to stress the fact that sewing is a hobby for me...and I have allocated finances for it. I feel badly talking about these expensive machines when others are struggling. I struggled a long time in my life and know what it is like. These expenses are not frivolous either. The machines are really used and have ended up paying for themselves over and over. In fact I will re-furbish a rental with all my sewing and save thousands. Curtains, bedding, cushions, pillows...all of it.} ------ "The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem." Theodore Rubin "Life isn't about finding yourself. Life's about creating yourself." George Bernard Shaw Bernina vintage and embroidery serger 234 and BLcoverstitch
SewBusy63 Advanced IA USA Member since 12/10/07 Posts: 3193	Login to reply to this post In reply to Artsewer Like this post Date: 10/10/11 9:05 PM Quote: does this machine have the same format screen as your 830? No it does not. I had downloaded the 580 simulator and did not like all the screens I had to go through. The 830 screen is more like the 635. ------ ~Diana~ ♥ Bernina 830E ♥ Bernina 1150MDA serger ✝The Lord is my Light and my Salvation: whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? Psalm 27:1✝
Maia B   Advanced Beginner IL USA Member since 10/27/10 Posts: 3404	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 10/10/11 9:45 PM What does the 580 have that the 640 doesn't to make it worth the additional expense? Does anyone know weights of the 5 series machines and the Artistas? ------ 🌸 Plenty of machines, mostly Berninas 🌸
threaddy   Advanced WY USA Member since 4/22/09 Posts: 2313	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 10/10/11 10:06 PM It has pattern elongation, long stitch which I use all the time,drag and drop editing, width adjustment for the buttonhole which only the 830 and 820 have, absolute check which only the 830 has, check box, built in embroidery basting...these features make it more appealing to me than the 640...but I am still tempted by the 640...it is going out of production though so that decision would have to be made fast. ------ "The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem." Theodore Rubin "Life isn't about finding yourself. Life's about creating yourself." George Bernard Shaw Bernina vintage and embroidery serger 234 and BLcoverstitch
Maia B   Advanced Beginner IL USA Member since 10/27/10 Posts: 3404	Login to reply to this post In reply to threaddy Like this post Date: 10/10/11 10:35 PM Kirsten, that's good to know. I can imagine the adjustable buttonhole being a deciding factor for garment sewists. ------ 🌸 Plenty of machines, mostly Berninas 🌸
Karen31   Advanced USA Member since 1/25/09 Posts: 933	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 10/10/11 11:41 PM Smooth and quiet. Very quiet. That is the first thing I noticed and continue to notice. Haven't played with all the options in embroidery but it was easy to set up and stitched out (built in) designs beautifully. Did I mention how quiet it is??? ------ Karen

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