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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Why did you get rid of your old TOL machine? ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Why did you get rid of your old TOL machine?
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KathyWalsh05
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Date: 11/20/11 3:08 PM

I recently went for a harmless (short) test drive of a Viking Saphire and before I left the shop, I fell prey to the siren song of a used Bernina, same $1000 price. It had been traded in for a TOL Bernina, the dealer said. He added that it was odd to have a second hand machine for sale, "because people just hold on to their Berninas." I left without buying, which was the right decision for me.
The condition of Bernina Love has been well discussed here, and I am not asking that question of you. but I am wondering amongst the PRers, if the machine still works well, what makes you get rid of your machines? I myself have SMAD (as evidenced by the “short test drive”“referenced above.) and with ahem, 5 vintage straight stitch only machines, I understand, um, collecting. If I gave them all away tomorrow, I would only be out by about $65. Perhaps it is because I do not have a computerized machine – yet- that I cannot understand why a person would have more than one. I understand upgrading, and replacing, like getting newer model cars. But having a succession of TOLs (or several computerized fully featured machines) and keeping them all, is puzzling to me, unschooled in the details of lovely computerized machines. Doesn’t each new generation have more and improved features?
Why have more than one TOL? Why have you gotten rid of your machines in the past? Why would you get rid of your current machine(s)? If I ever see another used Bernina, something that was close to TOL 15 years ago, or even newer, what should I know about the reasons why the previous owner maybe got rid of it?
I am genuinely curious and really would like to know. I do not mean to set off a criticism about having several TOL machines so please let’s not go there.

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Date: 11/20/11 3:26 PM


Kathy. I have never been able to part with any of my machines to date.. but expect I will when we retire and downsize..

But I imagine they are either traded in because the owner never bonded with them.. or the owner needed the trade in to have the money to buy the next machine.. or perhaps they just don't have the room to keep more than a few machines.. seeing as how most have a serger also. and some have other machines as well. classroom mechanicals.. emb only.. so if one was downsizing as we plan to do in our future.. I could see parting with some of my machines..

Additionally I have been told by a few of my friends.. they don't like to worry about getting parts for the older machines.. so they get rid of them when they trade up..

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Date: 11/20/11 3:49 PM

I sold my Bernina 730 to buy my 830. I liked the 730, but the 830 offered new features that I wanted, like large harp size. Other machines I have sold because I just didn't enjoy sewing on them long term, and one I sold because it was an embroidery machine that took floppies. It was slooow to bring up the design. I sold it and bought one a few steps up that uses a USB stick. So much better.
I'm reducing the number of machines I have, both vintage and modern, because I want the sewing room to be streamlined, and my attention less divided among many machines. I happily had many machines for several years, but now I'm going the other direction.
So I guess we buy machines that fit our wants and needs, and those things can change over time.

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Date: 11/20/11 3:53 PM

oohhhhh, I had not thought about the issues of getting parts. Good point.
Oh, and don't worry Poorpigling, when it comes time for you to downsize, I'm sure you will find hidden pockets of space to accomodate a junior sized collection- i.e. more than one.

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Date: 11/20/11 4:35 PM

I've upgraded because of the features.There was nothing wrong with my others, although not TOL (Bernina 440QE and 635 with embroidery), they just did not have all the features I wanted and thought I could live without. I have no reason to have more than one sewing machine. Plus, I get full purchase price towards the new one if bought within a year. I've just bought my (hopefully) last Bernina -- the 830 in June.

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Date: 11/20/11 4:36 PM

I have the TOL Bernina 930 and the Viking 770. I am the orginal owner of both. I intend to keep them until my list of repair people say they can no longer get parts or call in favors.

I don't think about those future dates. I enjoy sewing on my machines almost every day, so if I were to average out my investment, it would be money well spent. When that day comes, I will see whats available and how much my machines are worth in parts or trade ins.

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Date: 11/20/11 5:01 PM

Well, I kept mine. HAHA. My TOL machine is a Pfaff 1222E I bought in 1977. It was TOL then, and she is still TOL in my heart, however, the Viking 770 I own is today's TOL for me, as I do not embroider. To sell a machine, I have to be 1. Not using it much or at all, 2. Really happy with the condition of it and know it is a good machine, and 3. Need the space. I wouldn't sell or give away one i wasn't happy with, and I wouldn't let one go unless I needed space. I have a couple (cough) other machines I still have space for.

I do not understand the idea of "trading up" that people do now, but that is - I am sure - something the dealers have worked very hard on for the past 20 years to get people to think of as normal. It sure as heck benefits them! You never get out of it what you paid for it - and the trading up "at the price you paid" usually involves extras, although sometimes it can be quite a nice deal if you really want that new machine. I would rather let others buy the brand new and work out the bugs and then buy later in the models life. That goes for computers, sewing machines, and every other electronic device as well.

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Date: 11/20/11 5:05 PM

Who gets rid of machines? I have every machine I've ever brought except for one then then I have a copy of it. I usually have them so long before another one comes they are members of the family lol.

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Date: 11/20/11 6:21 PM

Quote: SewBusy63
I have no reason to have more than one sewing machine.

Same here. I still have the machine I upgraded from, because I thought I *might* use it for really heavy duty work, but I haven't gotten it out in the three years since I bought my (then)TOTL Viking. Someday I may again need to sew through two layers of acrylic blankets + 2" egg crate foam, so I'm hangin' onto it, plus my old bargain basement Brother isn't the sort of machine you trade in. But between my SM and my serger, I have everything I'm likely to need, machine-wise.

When I bought my Viking, I also discovered that I'd much rather have my own new machine, than an equivalent or "superior" used/vintage one. Like the OP, I could have spent the same amount of money on a circa 1990 Bernina as I did on my Viking... but I just couldn't bond with it. If I was spending that kind of money on a new machine... I wanted a NEW machine!

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Date: 11/20/11 6:39 PM

I traded my Janome 10001 to buy the Horizon and a 350e. I found that I need separate machines since embroidery is so time consuming on a single needle machine.

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