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Miss Fairchild
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Date: 11/20/11 9:44 PM

I've been pretty happy with my serger I purchased a few months ago. I really loved how it would finish seams and do all those neat things that my sewing machine takes too long to do. Today, however, it decided it was going to give me fits.

I was overedging a jacket hem (thin fabric, size 14 needles) using a small stitch finger, three threads, one needle, and a narrow stitch--in other words, a narrow hem. When I decided to change to a wider, overedge stitch was when things went wrong.

First, the machine kept skipping stitches. Funny, I replaced both needles before I started, just in case one was blunt. Then one of the needles broke and the remnant bent (right needle). Now the lower looper thread keeps breaking and I hear a clicking sound which seems to be coming from the needle as it hits the looper, and the machine won't form stitches. I changed both needles and this still seems to be a problem. The repair shop is 50 miles one way, so can anyone give me an idea as to what I'm doing wrong? I used Organ needles (which made the machine sound quiet, and run so smooth!!) and then when one broke, I changed to the standard Singer 2022 needles. Both brands of needles make the clicking sound; one brand is louder than the other. I didn't put in one of each, but instead two of the same.

Did I do something or is the machine out of adjustment?

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Date: 11/20/11 10:05 PM

you could of thrown it out of time. Just a slightes jaming can throw it out. my mother had a babylock that loved to do that. It was very touchy. Take a look just by turning the handwheel and see just where the needle hits. But my guess is you threw it out of time.

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Date: 11/20/11 10:28 PM


My guess is its too late. wayyy too late for someone your age to figure it out.. heck its too late for me to figure it out. and I am still in my twenties.. I AM TOO. So .. go rest a bit and give it a shot in the morning..

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Date: 11/21/11 2:40 AM

I hope your serger is not out of time as already posted. If you hear a click with the needle hitting a looper it could be out of timing but..do you think that maybe your needles are not as high up as they can go into the needle bar? Are you using the correct needles for your serger?
As for the looper thread breaking, are you threading in the proper order and remembering to thread your needles last? You might try lowering the tension on the lower looper. I know that I but the tension tight for rolled hems then lower it for regular serging.

As for getting skipped stitches, I suggest to try increasing your stitch width and also lengthen your stitch and increase the foot pressure. Skips can also happen when a larger needle is needed to be used.
I hope you get your serger working ok and don't need to take it in for repair especially being your repair man is so far away.
-- Edited on 11/21/11 2:42 AM --

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Date: 11/21/11 7:29 AM

If you were doing a narrow hem and moved to a wider one, did you clear all the stitches off the fingers first? Sergers definitely don't like trying to keep narrow stitches on while moving further apart! Ask me how I know...

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Date: 11/21/11 9:56 AM

I had something similar to this happen and I found that the needle hitting something had made a very slight burr on the stitch finger or maybe it was the looper. I can't quite remember. But I took a fine emery board and sanded it off. Amazingly it worked. Good luck!

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Date: 11/21/11 10:15 AM


Did the gremlins fix it while we were asleep.. ?

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Date: 11/21/11 10:19 AM


It seems to me.. from taking class last summer.. there is something more you should have done when changing to the wider stitch.. Have you consulted your manual.. But of course if doing what was suggested already helps..then I am dead wrong in that memory.. I know I do consult my manual when using my serger.. but that is because I am half afraid of that machine in the first place..

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Date: 11/21/11 11:48 AM

I would check to make sure that the needles are all the way up. Many sergers have separate screws to hold each needle in, but if the first needle is all the way up and tight sometimes the second needle is harder to get in all the way. Loose both needles, change to new (in case the others got dull when inserted), push both as far as possible into the machine and tighten. Turn the hand wheel towards you and look inside where the lower looper is. If you see the needles getting pushed around by the lower looper or touching anything it's out of timing and needs service.

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Date: 11/21/11 4:16 PM

I wonder were the other part of the "remnant" of the broken needle is? If you did not find it and toss it, maybe it's stuck in something. Did you unscrew your stitch plate and take it off and look and clean under there? While it's off, maybe hold that stitch plate up to the light and look at all the stitch fingers on it and all little places on it real good too. If a needle crashes into the stitch plate or a stitch finger, it could break one off or bend one downwards and it might be really hard to see that when on a machine.

That happened to me on a serger recently, I had to look at it multiple times to even notice it. Was almost impossible to see that when stitch plate was still fastened to the machine. Only could see it when the stitch plate was off the machine. Little tiny thin areas on a stitch plate are not that strong and can get broken or just bent down with a strong needle hit. I bent the stitch finger back up on just the stitch plate, just because a sttich plate is sort of an easy replaceable item (just because even if it broke off at that point, not much to loose as no sewing was going to be going on with it all bent up like that anyways) and smoothed it out and it works passable, as a temp measure, but I'm still going to get a new one.

If you are sure there is really metal hitting metal someplace, I would only test sew with only turning the wheel caregully by hand, until you see where that is happening. Just because if you just knocked a looper a bit off or such, I think about anyone, anywhere can probably move it back in place and re-tighten down for you. But instead if it was knocked over too much and really slams more into something else, then it might actually break or bend a looper, and at that point you might be way worse off than before, because then instead of just having to have be moved and tightened down, then you might need a whole new looper too.

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