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Date: 1/5/12 1:34 AM

I'm upgrading from the Brother PE770. Here's what I've found:
1. Babylock Ellageo, 5 years old, available from an individual for $1800
2. Brother Duetta 4000D, 2 years old, upgraded to 4500 and includes the continuous border hoop, available from the dealer for $3500

The Duetta is beautiful but in PR reviews, I've seen prices like this paid for this machine 2 and 3 years ago. It seems high, especially since they said a new one at sale price would go for about $5400.

Any advice?

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Date: 1/5/12 10:53 AM

The new machine is a better buy as the tech on it is more up to date. First question what options are available as far as transfarring designs to the machine? This stuff changes so fast.

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Date: 1/5/12 2:42 PM

Both can use the USB flash drive. To me, the biggest differences are that the Ellageo doesn't have the baste stitch and will never be able to use the continuous border hoop. It's a pain to have to sew out a frame design as a basting then switch to the actual design, which is what I have to do on the PE770. I guess, in the big picture, that feature alone isn't worth $1700 more!

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Date: 1/5/12 3:34 PM

Hi, I have the Brother 2500D which is the sister to the Babylock ellageo. I have had it for 5 and half years. I did have to replace the needle bar once, but I believe I got thread caught and that may have been the reason why the needle bar needed to be replaced. That was over a year ago. It has been working fine since then. The main difference between the Duetta and the other machines is that it can embroider up to 1000 stitches a minute and mine does 800, but my friends who have machines that embroider that fast don't use the highest setting. Also, you don't have to take the embroidery arm off of the machine when you want to sew with it. The other advantage is that the threads are cut just before the jump stitches. There are also more embroidery designs built into the machines which is not really important. The Duetta also has more decorative stitches. There is an upgrade for the 2500D that makes it act like a 2800D sewing/embroider machine that includes the pivot foot and a few other things. If the Ellageo is in good working condition. I would probably go along with that machine. Harriet

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Date: 1/5/12 5:27 PM

Thank you so much for the input! So, the embroidery arm has to be removed from the machine before you can do regular sewing (on the Ellageo)? I didn't realize that. Is there more to it than that?

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Date: 1/5/12 6:05 PM

Hi again,
Yes, you have to take off the embroidery arm when you are sewing and if you aren't using the free-arm, then put the other part of the base of the sewing machine in place. I also bought the large table to go with it. You can buy that online if you need to or at any Brother or Babylock dealer. Harriet

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Date: 1/5/12 6:08 PM

Google the Babylock Ellageo and you can get all of the information about the sewing machine there. If you have any other questions, go ahead and ask me. Harriet

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Date: 1/7/12 0:26 AM

Dealer called today and offered me an Esante (new) for $2500. I just really don't want a monochrome screen again. :(

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Date: 1/7/12 9:05 AM

I just finally traded in my Esante BLN, and it was a real tank. I really loved it and hated to part with it, but I was just running out of space. One good thing about monochrome screens is that they will undoubtedly last longer than color and, really, you can always open up your computer/laptop and see the design much larger and in color anyway, so I never saw the fascination in color screens. The newer Esantes will do a 6X10 (?), anyway, LARGE embroidery, which is nice to have, and it also will direct connect to your computer.

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Date: 1/7/12 8:49 PM

HI, I think that the new esante is like the brother 1500 sewing/embroidery machine. I almost went for it when I bought my Brother 2500D. Besides the color screen which makes it easier to see where you are embroidering, the 2500D also has a resume button which is very helpful when the electricity goes out around here in Memphi, Tn. and if you want to stop embroidering and do something else. When you put the machine back on, the machine tells you to take off the hoop and then hit the resume to recall button (okay button) and then it will set up the machine where it left off even if you have moved your design to stitch out other than in the center of the design.
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