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Message Board > Machine Embroidery > software and embroidery machine needed advice for purchase ( Moderated by Pyrose)

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Burgman
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Date: 1/23/12 9:14 PM

Ok, here's the deal. I have started a small part-time business doing seats for scooters. I now get a lot of request for custom embroidery on the seat covers. I am paying someone to do it. They use a Viking Diamond and has the 5D software. I am wanting to do it myself, or at least the basics. Here is my situation: I have a credit limit of about $2500. How do I spend it? Is it better to spend it on a machine or software? I am not sure, but would like to stick with a Babylock or Viking so I can later upgrade.

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Date: 1/24/12 10:58 AM

Want until you see if this (embroidery) is a winner before investing in something you may never use.

Sewing machines, including embroidery machines loose value as soon as they are purchased.

Custom embroidery is also going to require you to learn to digitize art work. This software alone can cost as much as $1,000.

An embroidery machine will start at around $500 for the Brother SE 400, a combo (sewing or embroidery).

Brother and BabyLock use the same design format.

I have owned and used both brands and they are excellent products.

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Date: 1/24/12 1:23 PM

It's a lot of investment. How much more do you make doing custom embroidered ones? You will have to buy machine, software, consider the time you will spend learning how to digitize and learn the machine etc. Then there is thread, stabilizer. It may be cheaper and more cost effective to continue to sub it out. After the outlay of expenses for this I'm sure you are going to have to sell quite a lot of covers to break even.

Other options are to use existing designs, there are hundreds of thousands and most allow you to use on things you sell you just can't sell the designs themselves. As far as lettering most machines come with a few fonts built in. And you could just pay to have them digtized and you actually do the stitching out. but you said small part time business so have to weight expenses and profit.
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Date: 1/24/12 3:00 PM

The Brother PE770 is a lot of machine for the money. I paid $750 for mine (new) two years ago. It accommodates 4x4 and 5x7 hoops. Buzz Tools makes affordable, user-friendly software. I splurged on Monogram Works and don't regret the purchase. If it was me and I really wanted to give it a go, that's the route I'd follow to stay under $2500. You can always upgrade (like I did recently) if you make some profit. If not, you should be able to sell the machine, thread, etc at a minimal loss.

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Date: 1/24/12 8:53 PM

I have a unique business and several thousand possible clients. Most have a reasonable amount of cash to spend on their hobby which they like to dress up. I am not looking to make my money back in a few months, but over a year or so. As word gets around I get more business. I have already paid out several hundred dollars to have done what I could do in the evening. If I did not see any payback, I would not do it. Besides, if the machine is mid-level or above, it will do more than just embroidery. I can not count the gas money, time, and phone calls made to her house.

What is a generic software that would allow me to digitize my own creations?


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Date: 1/25/12 9:40 AM

Any machine embroidery software product will do what you want. They all have the same basics.

You may also need a software like Corel, or use Windows paint for turning your art work into a jpg or bmp image. Then that is opened in the digitizing software. Or, use clip-art for practice.

About 99% of digitizing will require tweaking and this is where time is added to the project; tweak, test stitch, tweak, test stitch. It is not that fast. Unless this is a very simple design, it is going to take more that an evening to complete.

Check Designer's Gallery or Buzz Tools for trails.

You will also need a catalog software program for viewing your embroidery designs as computer software cannot read machine embroidery formats.

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Date: 1/25/12 5:03 PM

if your not going to be sewing with it just the embroidery with a solid existing client base look at a multineedle brother. You will be able to find someone who will package the software with it, the cost would be about the same as the diamond and will save you a world of time, and will be much more cost effective over the longer haul. even a solid second hand 6 or 8 needle brother is a better business proposition than a single needle.

While digitising takes some commitment to learn the newer machines come with fonts and monograming options also the multineedle machines are considered light commercial as well. I think that software with the brother multineedle anticipates a business use so warranty and using the on board feature for sale should not be an issue.

Worth a look for business, especially if you can find a reasonable dealer who can demonstrate how it all comes together properly between the machine and software

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Date: 1/27/12 9:13 PM

I'm not in business, but thought I could add some info that I have come across myself.
I bought a Brother 770 off ebay from a seller who had hers on layaway for a year and never opened the box when it was delivered. I got lucky. That's an option IF you are not hung up on a dealer ; ) dealers are great, don't get me wrong, but this was a deal I couldn't pass up. Craigslist (or searchtempest to look at all US listings on craigslist) is an option as well - I have never had a problem selling/buying on it, but just keep your smart-hat on when looking there.
Okay, so now I have an affordable machine. I started looking for software. Can't afford the best, not even the middle. However, there are options from Embird to Sophiesew. I googled and downloaded trials/demos for weeks because this is a non-returnable item, software that is.
So the two above, Art and stitch, SewArt, KP Compositions are ones I have tried. I may settle for SewArt because it does what I need at an incredible price then go to Embird after my credit card stops sizzling (just bought a serger LOL).
Now, the programs I listed are ones that enable the user to create and/or import a file and put out a PES file for the Brother. Always keep in mind what files the program supports when you shop - you want PES output and, if you are creating from scratch, importing png, jpeg, bmp at the very least (one or all of them).

My takeaway advice? Demo demo demo. You can pm me if you have ?s.
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Date: 1/28/12 7:25 AM

i can't offer advice...i have a babylock ellure (that is about 10 years old, or older maybe?) and it's a great machine.

but, as a vespa owner...do you have a website?

betsey

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Date: 1/30/12 7:18 AM

I actually cater to Suzuki Burgman owners. My website is www.burgmanseats.com.

I have searched all the websites for used equipment, but at the dealer I can usually get a good demo done and they will have serviced it. I am open to all advice and machines as long as they fit the budget. I do not want to underspend or overspend. I want it all and at a perfect price. I am thinking I will end up with a model such as the Asante or Ellageo. However, I am keeping an open mind and try to learn about all the different machines available.
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