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heather0921
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Date: 1/23/12 10:46 PM

I'm looking for an embroidery machine to do mostly monogramming and appliqué. I spent the morning at three different dealers looking at machines and think I've narrowed it down to he brother 1250 innovis or the baby lock ellure plus? Any thoughts on which one is better? And does it really have to do with the machine or the program/software you buy? Any program suggestions? And if I buy an appliqué or font online, do I have to have a program to use it? Sorry for the millions of quetions! I'm obviously a beginner!

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Date: 1/24/12 1:40 AM

Brother has Disney and the capability to do do more Disney/licensed designs from iBroidery.com. You don't need software but it helps to be able to see the design. There is free viewing converting software-Wilcom Truesizer

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Date: 1/24/12 10:52 AM

Did you post this twice? I know I have now answered twice.

Either brand would be a great embroidery machine.

I have owned and used both brands.

If you are interested in Disney, you may want to take a look at the models listed here.

Both brands use the .pes design format which are readily available.

The machines have built-in fonts that should have the option of small, medium or large.

You can also download from the Internet.

How to save downloads -
(1) Create a folder on your PC and name it accordingly so it can be easily found.
(2) Select designs in the format required by the embroidery machine.
(3) Make sure the size of the design will fit within the embroidery area limited by the embroidery machine - example, if the machine will only stitch out a maximum of 4" x 4", the machine will not accept a design that is larger.
(4) Save the design to the folder you created.
(5) Most downloads are zipped (compressed) for faster download time. This type of file has to be opened/extracted/unzipped before it can be read by the embroidery machine.
(6) After extracting and saving the design from the zipped file, test the saved file. If it stitches out well, then you can delete the zipped file to save folder space.
(7) Some downloads are named with a series of numbers and letters instead of names. You may want to rename them for easy identification.
(8) After accumulating designs of various subjects, you may want to create sub-folders and move the designs accordingly for easy access.
(9) Back-up the folder each time you add or make changes. You can use an USB flash drive/stick. These are inexpensive, can be purchased many places and are a life saver shoud the PC crash and wipe out all your hard work.

This site has very good tutorials. However, I find their designs to be too dense/tight.

You will not be able to see the designs, other than their names without machine embroidery software such as this one. Embird is the most economical brand currently available. You start with the base program and then add as needed. Start with the trial offer.

Best wishes as you enjoy this very rewarding craft.




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Date: 5/11/12 5:51 PM

I just got an Ellure Plus... Was actually afraid to get a Brother because of problems I had with a few lower end models... I also saw that Baby Locks are highly regarded online so I chose a Baby Lock over another Brother machine... However, I see people saying that the Brother Inovis 1250 and the Ellure Plus are the same (made by the same manufacturer?) so I'm wondering if I made the right choice...

I didn't care about not having Disney patterns on my machine but I just looked at the ibroidery website and see much more than Mickey Mouse on there for sale... I don't want to buy whole CDs that I see can cost nearly $80 when I can buy a single image I really like... This is all new to me so I'm still searching for pes files and such to use when I get going...

I can still get the Brother machine... I don't know what to do as this is my first embroidery machine... The place where I bought the machine is giving me free sewing lessons and I can't wait as I find my machine intimidating at the moment... I'm still using my old regular sewing machine until I get my lessons...

Thanks,
Babs

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Date: 5/11/12 6:30 PM

Would you mind sharing how much the Ellure Plus cost you? I am currently in the process of possibly buying the same machine for my mom and I was quoted $1695. This was not a final number, just one the dealer wrote down. So there could be some negotiation. I've seen some members say they've paid around $1400 for a new model? Not sure, but wouldn't mind knowing before I go to the dealer tomorrow.

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Date: 5/11/12 6:50 PM

While a dealer can work with you on price there are other considerations such as geographic location (prices in some Coastal regions seem to be a little higher than in the Midwest). In addition, some dealers sell a higher volume than others and should be the ones with a better price range.

Shop and ask is about the only way to find the best deal.



-- Edited on 5/11/12 11:19 PM --

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Date: 5/11/12 10:21 PM

I looked at both the BL Ellure+ and the Brother 1250D and ultimately went with the Brother and LOVE IT!

They are made by the same manufacturer, so they are basically the exact same machine except that the Brother offers the Disney licensing.

I have a Brother serger and have not had a single problem with it. Plus I read other reviews on both machines and no one had any issues with the 1250D.

I have not regretted my decision one bit. I paid $1299 in the SF Bay Area and got 2 feet thrown in plus 3% off for paying cash. Initially he told me the machine was around $1500-$1600... however I don't think he came down that much just on a whim, so I have a feeling he was just using that as a bargaining chip. He quoted me the same price on the Ellure+.

Either way, you'll end up with a great machine with good embroidery and lots of bells & whistles of the newer sm's.

HAVE FUN!!!

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Date: 6/6/12 6:06 PM

I checked today and the Baby Lock Ellure Plus Blr3, is $3,500 for full retail, what is a good price to offer?

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Date: 6/7/12 0:39 AM

Is that the quote the dealer is giving you or what you researched as being the MSRP? Regardless, that is WAAAAYYY overpriced for the Ellure Plus BLR3. I purchased this same model (and upgraded 2 days later to the Esante) and was given a price of $1395. I bought my Esante for only $2495. $3500 is outrageous for this machine and for that price, you could go all the way up to an Ellageo Plus.

If that is the price you were quoted, I would shop around. Or go to the sewing machine reviews and print out the most recent with prices on them to show your dealer. Someone recommended that earlier and seems like a pretty good idea.

Let us know as I'm interested if the dealer quoted you that.

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Date: 6/7/12 12:03 PM

Yea, that price is CRAZY! I was quoted $1395 about 3 months ago, so don't pay that price! The brother is around the same price, too.

Good luck!

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