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Date: 3/9/12 5:10 PM

There are so many great reviews of this machine and with it on special right now, I am rethinking my desire for a Bernina 630.

I currently own a Babylock Ellisimo. It is wonderful for embroidery, but not wonderful for sewing (in my experience). I have a Bernina 1031 DC (old) that has a beautiful stitch and thought of upgrading to the 630 to maintain the great stitch but add capability of needle down and presser foot pressure adjustment. I also do not like the buttonholes on the Babylock -- I nearly ruined a jacket I made for my daughter trying to make a buttonhole through 2 layers of fleece.

Finally to my question -- has anyone made buttonholes on layers of thick, stretchy fabric?

How does the machine do with knits in general? Do you have issues with the fabric going down into the throat plate if you do not use a straight stitch throat plate?

Also, I have read several reviews that speak of 'wobbly' stitching due to the box-feed. If anyone could explain this to me, I surely would appreciate it.

Thanks for your help!

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Date: 3/9/12 5:23 PM

You might like to read a PR members (tholtz) blog write up on her Juki here:

http://bendingpins.com/my-juki/

She also has a new Bernina 550QE, but she doesn't have the review on her blog yet. But, she has talked about both machines here in the forums quite a bit if you wanted to do a search.

I think she is very knowledgeable.

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Date: 3/9/12 5:39 PM

Not sure what is meant by "wobbly", or how box feed, which is on industrial machines AND some Berninas (my 930 had it), could cause stitching that isn't straight.

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Date: 3/9/12 5:42 PM

I think it's a matter of learning to guide the fabric on a box-feed machine. Apparently it has such great feed that you only need a light touch on the fabric...no need to push or steer it toward the needle and let it do it's thing.
I love all the decorative stitches(especially the random applique ones) on the F-600 but I also really like the dual feed on the Singer L-500, along with less plastic.
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Date: 3/9/12 5:48 PM

I don't understand it, either... just saw this comment in more than one F600 machine review here on PR.

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Date: 3/9/12 6:17 PM

Perhaps It was me that mentioned the wobbly foot on the machine.
I meant the sewing foot wobbles up and down more than the foot on many other brands of machines. At first I didn't like it but with time I understood that this feature helped sewing over those very thick seams easier.
The box feed dog system is fANTASTIC!!!! The fabric goes so straight. Sometimes I take my hands off only to enjoy seeing the fabric go under the foot so straight.
I have done some button holes on cotton fabrics and denim, not on heavy knits yet and I found them all of very good quality.
My Juki has never pulled down any type of fabric into the bobbin area. I often start my sewing off the fabric at the beggining and it always sews perfect even on very thin fabrics.
I personally don't see the need of a single hole plate.
I think if I would have to sew buttonholes on thick knits I would slide underneath a small piece of tearaway stabilizer, just to be sure.

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Date: 3/9/12 6:41 PM

I think "wobbly" is misleading. It implies loose or defective in some way. Do you mean that is has a "greater range of motion" to accomodate sewing over thick seams?

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Date: 3/9/12 7:12 PM

I have made button holes in a heavy cotton knit sweater without any problem. Use the button hole stitch for medium weight knits and you should be fine - but definitely do a test sample or two. This machine gives you the ability to increase the width of the buttonhole opening which is nice.

I have also used the machine for a slinky knit and other stretchy knits. Using the walking foot is very helpful and a stretch needle. I find this machine likes organ needles better than Schmetz but you can use Schmetz needles.

I don't notice any particular wobble of the stitch although the foot is a bit looser than others I have used on different brands of machines. I haven't had any problems with the fabric going down into the stitch throat plate except when I didn't put the bobbin in unwinding counterclockwise. I did buy a straight stitch plate for the F600 for use with lightweight chiffon and silks but haven't used it yet.

Hope this helps!

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Date: 3/9/12 7:12 PM

Yes Soolip I think you describe it in a better way.

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Date: 3/10/12 0:15 AM

Quote: Soolip
I think "wobbly" is misleading. It implies loose or defective in some way. Do you mean that is has a "greater range of motion" to accomodate sewing over thick seams?

This is exactly my thought as I expressed in my review of the F400 model. I feel you have to have some give in the ankle/joint of the foot in order to be able to feed over thick areas which the Juki's can do well.

I've had my 400 just for a few days and it is wonderful! I've been sewing on a Pfaff with intergrated feed for almost 20 yrs and I don't miss it a bit. The Juki feeds fabric like a dream.

All the stitches and buttonholes I've tried so far are nice. I have not used it on fleece yet to give you an opinion for that type of fabric.

You will not be sorry you went with a Juki.

Best, Ann

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