Sewing Patterns, Pattern Review, Sewing Classes, Sewing Machines and Sewing Machine Reviews!
Platinum Sponsor: Stylish Fabric
Over 20,000 of high quality reorderable fabric

[SIGNUP - FREE Membership & 1 FREE Sewing Lesson ]
[Sewing Classes|Shopping Bag Your Shopping Bag|Login|Help]
Sewing Review and Pattern Reviews Sewing Knowledge Base Sewing Patterns Sewing Classes & Sewing Lessons Sewing Machine & Embroidery Machinery Sewing Message Boards Sewing merchants Blog Help/FAQ About Pattern Review
Enter your e-mail address:




Advanced Search
Tags
New to PR?
Sewing Machines
Compare Sewing Machines
Sewing Machine & Serger Reviews
Embroidery Machines
Sewing Reviews
Sewing Patterns
Review Gallery
Sewing Books
Sewing Supplies
Sewing Websites
Sewing Stores
Sewing Class Reviews
Sewing Expo Reviews
Sewing Tips & Techniques
Sewing Podcasts
NEW!Fabric Glossary
Sewing Review Requests Add a Review Request
Your Account
Edit Profile
My Page
Favorites
Wish List
Pattern Catalog
Notifications
Friends of PR
Join Friends of PR
Find a member
Deal Corner
Photo Album
Calendar
Chat Room
Chat Schedule
Chat Transcripts
Sewing Classifieds
Add a Classified
Sewing Contests
enter contest
contest report
contest gallery
Favorite Links
reviews with comments
merchant gallery
article archive
newsletter archive
Craft Resources
contact info
shipping rates
returns & refunds
testimonials

Platinum Sponsor - Stylish Fabric
Stylish Fabric
You are not logged in. Login here.



Message Board > Bridal and Formalwear Sewing > What fabric for underlining? ( Moderated by MissCelie)

Please LOGIN or Join PatternReview
Go to Page:
What fabric for underlining?
Silk dupioni as main fabric
Marie-Claude
starstar
Marie-Claude
Advanced
NETHERLANDS
Member since 6/29/05
Posts: 411
Login to reply to this post

Date: 3/12/12 5:35 AM

Hi everyone,

I read the other threads, but I'm still not 100% sure with what I should do. I'm making a wedding dress using Vogue 1182, in off-white 100% silk dupioni. For lining, I'm using an off-white bemberg. Now, my problem is that I find the dupioni to be a bit too transparent for my (and my bride's) taste, and I'm afraid the seam allowances will show through the fabric. And my bride wants to be 'well contained' in her dress, if you know what I mean. So I would like to add a bit of stiffness to the dupioni. I thought of underlining my pattern pieces, but I've never done that and I wouldn't know where to start.

I read many of you are using silk organza, but I'm on a very limited budget, and I wouldn't know where to start to find silk organza here. Anyway. I thought of just using the cheap polyester organza available here (very soft though), but I'm not sure if it would do the job, especially to get rid of the transparency problem. Should I just lining fabric then? Or batiste?

I'm lost

------
Surgeon General says: "Ten yards a day keeps the blues away."
http://www.couturlututu.com

clothingengineer
starstarstarstar
clothingengineer  Friend of PR
CT USA
Member since 5/7/10
Posts: 508
Login to reply to this post

Date: 3/12/12 8:58 AM

It won't add much in the way of stiffness, but I like using cotton lawn or batiste for underlining. I buy mine from OnlineFabricStore. I find that with the free shipping they are the cheapest, especially if you do a bulk order (10+ yards). Being 100% cotton it is also breathable and cool to wear.

------
-- Anne

wendyrb
wendyrb  Friend of PR
Advanced
CA
Member since 12/30/11
Posts: 2801
online now


Going to PR Weekend Austin!
Login to reply to this post

In reply to Marie-Claude


Date: 3/13/12 0:29 AM

Hi, I just today learned that Dharma Trading in Marin, California has 5mm Silk Organza. At 45" wide the price is $5.49/yd, for 10 yds or more $5.15 and for a bolt per yard it's CORRECTION- $4.85. You'd have to check on shipping costs. I hear that's a good price. It really is light, crisp and if affordable, ideal for your project. Good luck.

Another thought- Sarah Veblen does an Underlining class on PR. I'm not sure how you'd link up with her former students to get the benefit of their experience. She's a fine teacher and probably has given resource lists you could find useful.
-- Edited on 3/13/12 0:31 AM --

------
Always keep your words soft and sweet, just in case you have to eat them. Andy Rooney

Pfonzie- my honey Pfaff Creative Performance, Bernina 930 and 830, Evolution serger.

mmcp
mmcp  Friend of PR
Advanced Beginner
MD USA
Member since 5/31/09
Posts: 225
Login to reply to this post

Date: 3/13/12 6:31 AM

I bought about 10 yards of silk organza from Dharma Trading a couple of years ago, and have been steadily working my way through it. Recommend it/them highly, and at that price, I can't imagine you would save any money going for cotton!

Marie-Claude
starstar
Marie-Claude
Advanced
NETHERLANDS
Member since 6/29/05
Posts: 411
Login to reply to this post

Date: 3/13/12 7:48 AM

Thanks for the tip!! What would one do without PR I just ordered 3 yards of silk organza at Dharma Trading and the shipping costs were low enough to convince me!

------
Surgeon General says: "Ten yards a day keeps the blues away."
http://www.couturlututu.com

Alice Wang
star
Alice Wang
Advanced
UNITED KINGDOM
Member since 5/18/11
Posts: 92
Login to reply to this post

Date: 3/13/12 11:25 AM

Great news about the organza :)

In terms of the underlining, I thought I'd mention this tip underlining and seam finish in one

I used it for my bridesmaid dress and it gave such a neat finish! and it made my life so much easer! if you are interested, I've posted some photos here so you can see the finish.

HTH

------
Follow the progress of my wedding dress in the making and other distracting projects at: http://smoonbeam.blogspot.com/

Marie-Claude
starstar
Marie-Claude
Advanced
NETHERLANDS
Member since 6/29/05
Posts: 411
Login to reply to this post

Date: 3/13/12 11:50 AM

Yes Alice, I actually did read that yesterday! So I'll definitely keep it safe for the next few weeks, when I'll actually start on the dress

------
Surgeon General says: "Ten yards a day keeps the blues away."
http://www.couturlututu.com

kathi s

kathi s
Beginner
CA USA
Member since 1/23/03
Posts: 1720
Login to reply to this post

Date: 3/14/12 1:40 AM

Wow! Great tip! I've arduously hand basted the underlining to the garment pieces, and wasn't crazy about the look of the seams, even though they won't show under the lining. My only question is does this technique make the seam bulkier?

BeckyMc
star
BeckyMc
Advanced
WA USA
Member since 4/16/08
Posts: 79
Login to reply to this post

Date: 3/14/12 2:34 PM

Just a thought: IF the silk organza is still too sheer for your bride's taste I have another fabric suggestion. It sounds bizarre and wrong, but I took a class once from a bridal designer who used good quality white cotton flannel as underlining. She pre-shrunk it about 3 times in hot water/hot dryer to get it good and thick. It gave a beautiful structure to the final dress. No boning showed through and certainly no seam allowances.

------
"Even as ye sew, so shall ye rip"
"There is very little we cannot accomplish if we have a positive attitude, tons of money and supernatural powers." Steve Eaton

Alice Wang
star
Alice Wang
Advanced
UNITED KINGDOM
Member since 5/18/11
Posts: 92
Login to reply to this post

In reply to kathi s


Date: 3/14/12 3:44 PM

Kathi,

I didn't think it made the seam bulkier, especially once it's been pressed.

I've basted underlining lots of times (now mainly when the pieces do not have straight seams so I can't really use that technique) and I'm with you - the seam finish isn't that neat! but I suppose sometimes it can't be helped.

------
Follow the progress of my wedding dress in the making and other distracting projects at: http://smoonbeam.blogspot.com/

Go to Page:
Please LOGIN or Join PatternReview
printable version Printable Version

* Advertising and soliciting is strictly prohibited on PatternReview.com. If you find a post which is not in agreement with our Terms and Conditions, please click on the Report Post button to report it. Bridal and Formalwear Sewing >> What fabric for underlining?

Merchants on PR
SewBaby
Unique Sewing Patterns
Deals!
Budo Bear Designs
Asian Designs
Web site
Patterns from the Past
vintage sewing patterns
Deals!
Elliott Berman Textiles
Fabrics for Greater Ideas
Deals!
Gwyn Hug
Fabric Shopping Help!
Deals!

Copyright © 2014 PatternReview.com® , OSATech, Inc. All rights reserved.
Conditions of Use | Posting Guidelines | Privacy Policy | Contact Us
Online Sewing Classes
Break your Serger Out of the Box
Fee: $29.00
(Regular $49.00)
Break your Serger Out of the Box

Online Sewing Classes
10 Clever Techniques To Help You Sew Like a Pro
Fee: $49.00
(Regular $49.00)
10 Clever Techniques To Help You Sew Like a Pro

New Look 6405
photo
Review by slanden99 on 1/24/07
Read Review

Sewing Workshop Sandra Betzina Vest & Skirt Pattern
Sewing Workshop Sandra Betzina Vest & Skirt Pattern

Details
Price: $22.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Sewn Square One Swing Shift Pattern
Sewn Square One Swing Shift Pattern

Details
Price: $12.00
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Christine Jonson Patterns Cowl Neck Tunic Digital Pattern
Christine Jonson Patterns Cowl Neck Tunic Digital Pattern

Details
Price: $12.50
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Salme Sundress Digital Pattern
Salme Sundress Digital Pattern

Details
Price: $8.00
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Kwik Sew Sewing for Toddlers Book
photo
Review by Trinity. on 10/24/07
Read Review

Simplicity 2188 Pattern( Size XXS-XS-S-M-L-XL-XXL )
Simplicity 2188 Pattern( Size XXS-XS-S-M-L-XL-XXL )

Details
Price: $16.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Vogue 8939 Pattern ( Size 12-14-16-18-20 )
Vogue 8939 Pattern ( Size 12-14-16-18-20 )

Details
Price: $30.00
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Subscribe to PR Message Board Feed Subscribe to the PR Message Board Feed Add to My Yahoo! Subscribe at NewsGator Online Subscribe at Bloglines Add to MyMSN