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A question about threads
Bobbin thread showing on top of fabric
Pamlyn
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Date: 3/25/12 8:52 PM

I am learning how to use my embroidery machine, and I am having troubles. My bobbin thread is showing on the top of my fabric. I went back to my dealer, who helped me correct a few things I was doing wrong, and things started going much better. However, I am again experiencing trouble with the bobbin thread showing.

I purchased white and black Sulky bobbin thread, and while I can see the white a tiny bit, the black just completely pulls up to the top of the fabric. I have no idea why there would be such a big difference between the two threads. They are both the fine bobbin thread. Does anyone have any idea why this could be happening?

I am using Madeira thread on top, maybe I need to use Madeira in the bobbin as well? I tried using a different stabilizer but there was no difference with that.

I am planning to schedule another embroidery lesson, but I am so busy atm I am having trouble fitting it in. And I can't stand the idea of not embroidering while I wait to have another lesson.

Thanks!
Pam

(edited to add: I have played around with the tension a bit and it helped a little bit but not enough to make me happy. I do not want to see my bobbin thread at all....is that unreasonable? I did buy an old embroidery machine but it is in pristine condition. Sews beautifully.)
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Date: 3/25/12 9:12 PM

You are not being unreasonable. You shouldn't be seeing your bobbin thread. Sullky is good bobbin thread so I don't think that is the problem. I do think it is about your tension and your dealer is going to have to show you how to adjust it so you won't have this issue.

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Date: 3/25/12 10:00 PM

Hi Pamlyn,

when this happens to me, I pull out the bobbin and put it back in--almost always happens because I've haven't threaded the bobbin properly. Your dealer should be able to show you.

Good luck!
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Date: 3/25/12 10:23 PM

I had this same problem when I started doing machine embroidery. I bought a box of the NEB prewound bobbins and the problem disappeared. Unless I'm doing stand-alone lace (and using the same thread in top and bottom), I never use anything except NEBs. Plus, it's well worth it not to have to wind bobbins.

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Date: 3/25/12 11:43 PM

Thank you so much for your responses ladies!

I am relieved to know I am not being unreasonable...whew.

My dealer did show me how to make sure I was putting my bobbins in correctly, and I believe I am doing it right. I did take it out a few times and then put it back in. The results were that the white bobbin thread didn't pull through as much as the black bobbin thread. Strange. I will try again tomorrow though. If I've learned anything in the 8 months that I've been sewing it is that I have a lot to learn. LOL

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Date: 3/26/12 0:53 AM

Have you tried different threads? Or different needles? My Viking Designer SE hates Madeira embroidery thread no matter what I do it seems. And of course I bought a bunch of it because they have such lovely colors!

Tonight I used a #12 Organ embroidery needle with the Sulky white in the bobbin, Madeira on top. I hooped quilting weight cotton with tear away stabilizer and had to 'play' with different things for over an hour before machine finally stitched out the design with no knot ups/breaks/loopies etc. I do not have this problem with any other threads! I believe I may sell the entire batch of spools I have as I am beginning to think the thread is to blame not my machine, it sews all other threads fine.

One more thing, I also tried putting the spool upright on a thread holder beside the machine as well as putting it on the machine's horizontal spool holder with a thread sock, seems my SE liked the thread in the vertical position better! Didn't break as it had when I had it on the machine's holder.

Main thing is - don't give up, play with it as much as you can. Purchase some inexpensive cotton fabrics and embroider everything you can! =0)

Anyhoo, I've written a book, must go to bed now!

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Date: 3/26/12 4:19 PM

Thank you for the suggestion of trying different threads and needles, as well as not giving up. I have successfully stitched out a few designs with the Madeira Polyneon, but who knows, maybe some designs won't do well with it? I don't know which threads to try ~ Marathon, Floriani, Robison Anton, Superior Threads.....so many from which to choose! I too spent a good chunk on a Madeira thread collection so I hate the idea of switching, but if that is what it takes I will. I am currently using Schmetz embroidery needles, I guess I should purchase some Organ as well.

I use a thread stand, but I'll try the machine spool pin. I can't believe how fickle embroidery machines seem to be. I had no idea that I would have to spend so much time fiddling with it. I expected I would need to 'babysit' during stitch-outs but the fiddling is driving me nutters. lol

I have some Marathon thread so I think I will go try and stitch something using it and use these other suggestions everyone has mentioned. Surely I can find a good combination, right??

Thanks!
Pam

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Date: 3/26/12 5:46 PM

Have you checked that there is no lint or thread caught in or under the chase.

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Date: 3/26/12 6:08 PM

I am not sure what the chase is. Is it the part under the bobbin?

I did try embroidering earlier, but the bobbin thread kept being pulled up. I am not sure, but it seemed as if the bobbin thread was sort of jumping out of the path it is supposed to lie in. However, when I checked to see if I could sew it worked pretty well. I did have to adjust the sewing tension, which I haven't had to do before.

This machine is very old (it is a Brother ULT2001), I bought it used like 3 months ago, but it looked like it was in perfect condition. The owner of the shop where I purchased it stitched out a couple of designs before I purchased it, and during my first class there were no problems either.

I am taking it back to the dealer tomorrow to see if they can shed some light on what is going on.

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Subject: more things to try Date: 4/13/12 10:37 PM

1. Try using regular sewing thread in the bobbin.
2. Try using regular sewing thread in the top.
3. Try using 2 pieces of stabilizer.
4. Do a REALLY close inspection of the bobbin case (the thing that holds the bobbin). Sometimes the case on my machine gets a little loose.
5. Try Mettler thread - I've always had excellent results with it too.
6. Take your machine in and have the sales person watch YOU hoop, thread, and sew. Watching her do it doesn't diagnose your problem.

Best of luck! I'm sure you will get this resolved, even if the solution is a little "wonky".

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