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Message Board > Sewing Machines > need help identifying :) ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 6/4/12 0:04 AM

Ok so I went to a local church rummage sale and found a very sweet lady and her daughter selling a sewing table, her hubby said dont bring it home so I scored it for 10$!! the table its self is in perfect condition its a stradivaro, and to my surprise the sewing machine inside is working and in perfect condition, except for the belt which is defintly on it's way out! the only things i can find on the machine to attempt to identify it is on the machine itself it says hilton adler then numbers on a plate underneath say j c6 ja3 and rz109520, on the motor itself it says Belvedere Adler type sc - hm, so can anyone tell me anything about it? i have no clue what model it really is and where i can find a new belt or even a universal belt possibly, and i seem to see alot of blevedere adlers being called forgotten singers? so i have no clue! any help is appreciated thanks guy and dolls!

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Date: 6/4/12 1:35 AM

I am envious!! That is beautiful!!! The JA and JC numbers are used for Japanese manufactured machines and indicate the maker of the machines. The VintageJapanese machine site has a listing of which manufacturer is associated with each number. I would guess Brother, but the site won't let me in at the moment.
Here is a bit about Solomon Adler himself.
Adler

Here is a link to the group. I'm sure they have more info for you
Vintage Jappanese Machine group
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Date: 6/4/12 8:55 AM

The belt is a common part that you should be able to replace yourself.

Jenny and Sew-classic Here are instructions on how to measure and do it, and an excellent source for parts. (NAYY)

A little odorless mineral spirits and lots of cotton balls and q-tips on the painted parts, and metal bits will remove greasy dirt. NOT on rubber. For the workings of the machine make sure to oil any moving (metal to metal contact points) bits.
Follow up on the cosmetics with a good buffing and car wax (if it looks like car parts, treat it like car parts, and these late 50's machines so do resemble cars of that era, don't they?)

The bobbins should be common class 15 bobbins.

And indeed join the Yahoo groups for vintage Japanese machines and before you know it, another one will follow you home.

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Date: 6/4/12 10:52 AM

I don't know squat about this machine except that it is super cool - kind of reminiscent of a Rocketeer. Enjoy!

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Date: 6/4/12 10:56 AM

Love the looks of those old machines, and they have a beautiful stitch.

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Date: 6/4/12 2:46 PM

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a good buffing and car wax

Is this relatively easy to do? I haven't waxed a car in I'm embarrassed to say how long. I have a Pfaff 130 and the paint is a little flat. I would love her to be glossy again. Is it okay to wax over the decals, such as the Pfaff logo and the gold border on the bed of the machine? Should I remove any parts from the machine before I wax? Should I clean the machine before waxing? What do I use?

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Date: 6/4/12 4:48 PM

WOW thanks so much everyone for all the information and and kudosthe hubby is currently refinishing the cabinet its in ill see if i can get it out we if he can it weighs like 30 lbs! Im glad its in working order besides the belt, ill definitley take all the info in and do the cleaning properly thanks so much everyone! and ill def join that yahoo group too!

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Date: 6/4/12 8:38 PM

This is like asking me how to wash your baby... there are a hundred different ways and the only wrong one is the one that ruins your machine.
Search "cleaning a vintage sewing machine" and read the first 4 or 5 entries. The paint may be flat because it has a coat of hardened grease, or it may be flat because it is worn with age. Generally speaking a soft toothbrush and some soapy water can't do much harm. Grit is the enemy; scrubbing too hard will erode the finish and the decals. Whatever route you choose, thoroughly dry and follow the instructions on the can of car wax. You will be waxing the shiny bits too, so they needn't necessarily be removed. This space is too small to give a real tutorial and there are many existing ones that are far better than what I can provide.
Here is an excellent start:
Treadle On tutorial
ISMACS care pages

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Date: 6/4/12 9:04 PM

I'd just like to say to test your cleaning method on the back of the machine first..or another out of the way place. I did find that plain water will silver some Singer decals.

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2012 86.3 yds..
2013 21.0
Everyone who sews seriously has a stockpile of fabrics, because it is natural to purchase more than can be sewn in any one season" Singer, Timesaving Sewing, 1987

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Date: 11/20/12 5:17 PM

Have you learned much? Mine looks exactly like that except for the Adler Label. I can't figure out how to fill the bobbin. Can you help? I'm thrilled after 3 days of searching the web to see a photo that looks exactly like it.

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