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Message Board > Sewing Machines > viking 6460 ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 6/23/12 12:01 PM

I have a Viking 6460 which I purchased new in 1977. It was my first "good" machine and I loved it. I later upgraded to a Viking #1 and then to a Viking Designer SE but kept the 6460 as back-up. I used it periodically over the years to keep it lubed but was unable to touch it for about a year. It froze. I finally got it to sew but in reverse only. Then I got it to sew forward (yea!) but no zip-zag. When I turn the stitch width dial, the needle moves over to the left as it should but it will only sew straight. Any ideas?

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Date: 6/23/12 12:28 PM

I have a 6440, something similar happened to it a while ago. If these machines are not used for an extended period, this can happen because the cams and such get sticky.

You can either take it to be serviced, or there is a discussion group (on yahoo, I think) for these older vikings where you can look up info on how to clean out the machine yourself. I tried to do this once, and got hung up on removing the cover, and just let the repair guy do it. Because they are self-lubricating, you need to use a specific lubricant (I forget the type, but the yahoo group will have the info) to fix the machine.

I've also sometime had issues with the gears slipping out of alignment while in use, but I'd bet that the lubricant is the issue since your machine was not used for a long time.

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Date: 6/23/12 4:47 PM

I think I would take any removable stitch former kind of cams out of the back of it, and try to turn the knob on the front that cycles though the stitch patterns, and use a flashlight to try to see if there was a big crack going though the dark plastic in there, that the stitch former cams fits into. If so, then maybe that might explain it. If not, then I would think maybe, if I was lucky, it was just all stuck and seized up.

I have a Viking 6440 (so even a bit older than yours) that the cam stack has never ever cracked and really is just fine, and I'm sure a lot of other people have all sorts of like machines too. But, some of them, have actually cracked by now. If so, they still sew backwards and in reverse, often, just by how you might turn some knobs on them.

I don't think using them periodically is enough to keep them lubed anymore at all, even if maybe it was for a shorter period of time. No matter what they may have said about them when they were new all that very long time ago. I think they need real lube now instead. So to put it an another way, I think even 30 or 40 year old, oil impregnated metal is not doing much of anything for you anymore.

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Date: 6/23/12 5:57 PM

I'm on that Viking list, and I think they say to never try to force anything thing stuck on the pre-80's Vikings. It can make a minor repair bill into a major one.

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Date: 6/24/12 0:17 AM

I agree that the lubricant is the problem but there may be another culprit to check for as well. It is very common for models in the era such as yours (and mine) to have a cracked camstack gear. by opening up the back and checking, I was able to see quite clearly there was a crack. That made it impossible to zig zag. This may not be what's wrong with yours but it can happen and is easy to diagnose. Unfortunately it was an expensive repair at a bad time for me. Because of a lack of money I did it myself, and amazingly it worked. I agree about seeking some help from the vintage Viking Group on Yahoo. Expert advice is to be found there.
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Date: 6/24/12 4:35 PM

I also have a 6460. In the long run, you will be much happier if you take the machine to a good service place. They will get all the gunk out of it (hardened lubricants, etc), and when it's there, they will check the timing etc.
Unfortunately, I've had to do this before, since I let it sit for several years. This time, I've let it sit for about 2 years, and I'm sure it needs to be carefully unstuck again.

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Date: 6/24/12 7:22 PM

Thanks for all the responses/advice concerning my 6460. I agree that it needs professional help. I may take it in when I take my SE for service. I have two machines--a Viking #1 and a Designer SE--which work perfectly so I don't need the 6460. I'm just emotionally attached to it.

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