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Date: 7/15/12 1:24 AM

Should stabilizer always been hooped with the fabric or is it OK to cut a small piece of stabilizer and attach it to the fabric with spray adhesive or pins? I have been hooping it with the fabric but it seems like such a waste of stabilizer when I'm only doing a small design.

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Date: 7/15/12 7:48 AM

You have to hoop the stabilizer with your fabric so the project has proper stabilization when that embroidery needle is pounding away at thousands of stitches per minute. It is wasteful but you have to have a large enough piece of stabilizer to fill the hoop and stick out enough on each side so you can adjust and pull it tight like a drum. There are ways to use your stabilizer wisely and reduce the waste. I know Nancy Zieman has a good book that covers embroidery basics and hooping / stabilizers, but I can't remember the title off hand. There are probabaly lots of youtube videos as well. Proper stabilization is really important if you want good embroidery results. I think you will be sorry if you try to skimp on stabilizer to save a few pennies.

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Date: 7/15/12 2:15 PM

My understanding is that MOST of the time you need to hoop the fabric & stabilizer together.

HOWEVER, you don't want to do this with certain fabrics that will become damaged by the hoop and therefore become unusable. Fabrics like this include fleece, leathers/faux, velvet, knits, etc. In these cases, you hoop the stabilizer and then use spray or sticky adhesive to attach the fabric and then embroider. I believe this will take some practice and trial & error until you achieve the best results.

Good luck!

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Date: 7/15/12 7:13 PM

What you could do instead maybe, if you have a big roll of stabilizer, (not smaller cut pieces) is to go ahead and hoop it and your fabric at the end of the roll of it. then when embroidering, have enough pulled off and unrolled that everything can still move freely. Or just hold that roll in your hand and move with the machine movements. Then after all is done sewing out, cut or tear away the stabilizer at the embroidery design like normal, but it's all still attached to the roll. That way, when you go to hoop up again, you have not so much "wasted" at all, on the the part that was to the side of the stabilizer still on the roll. That would "save" some of it, for next time. If you really always did that, you would use less. Kind of a lot of extra work and bother though.

I don't do that, normally, as too much bother for me, but if I was in the middle of a project and had no more, and was going to run out before I was done, and did not want to have to run out the the store to get more, and wanted mine to go further, or furthest under those kind of circumstances, I have done that before.

Some people also always even like to use the smallest hoop you can for your embroidery design, as less stabilizer used, and even less pull and push factors going on, with a smaller hoop then too.



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Date: 7/15/12 7:21 PM

When the project is not properly stabilized you will most likely not get a good stitch-out.

What is more expensive? A ruined item or the proper amount of stabilizer?

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Date: 7/16/12 8:01 AM

You can use stabilizer like "Perfect Stick" by Floriani, which is sticky on one side. Just hoop this with shiny side up and score the paper with a pin. Peel off the paper and you have sticky in the hoop. Place the fabric in the hoop and smooth down. It sticks and will not move! You can patch the hole after embroidering with another little piece of the sticky stabilizer and embroider something else.

I have been a professional embroiderer for 16 years and I do admit that I hoop most things nice and tight, with stabilizer and garment IN the hoop. but there are times when you either cannot get the hoop on because it is so thick..or it is just easier to stick it on and do a quick embroidery.

I only use spray adhesive for pre-cut applique fabric..and I do NOT EVER spray it in the hoop. I spray the little piece of fabric inside a cardboard box VERY lightly (if you spray heavily, it will gum up the needles)and stick it down.

As for using pins, I don't often do that, but I have been known to use some pins to hold on some topping that I forgot to hoop with the garment..or even a piece of slippery applique fabric that I did not want to stick down. You do have to make sure the pins are not in the sewing field though.

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Date: 7/17/12 9:21 AM

I only have a big oval hoop for my Bernina, so most stabilizer is too narrow for it, and the wider stabilizer is very expensive (as is a smaller hoop...)

I've found that I can save a lot of money using the standard narrow stabilizer and attaching a row of tape on the side of it (and then tape over the other side too so it isn't sticky). This makes the stabilizer wide enough to fit into the hoop, but the tape doesn't protrude into the embroidery area at all.

I'm sure there are other tricks like this that can save a bit of money.

(I also like the Sticky stabilizer, because I have a hard time hooping fabric straight- this way, I only have to hoop the stabilizer, then I put the fabric on top of it.)

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Date: 7/17/12 4:29 PM

I hate waste even use both sides of printer paper before throwing it away. However, I found skimping on stabilizer will really do an embroidery project wrong.

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Date: 7/17/12 4:34 PM

I use leftover stabilizer when I do the decorative stitching on my sewing machine.

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Date: 7/19/12 12:26 PM

That's a good idea....never even thought to do that! Thanks for the idea!

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