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Date: 8/7/12 3:02 PM

OK - I have been working on the jacket from Butterick 5047 - looked at the reviews - no one seems to have reviewed the jacket portion of this pattern. I have been very careful cutting and sewing everything - got collar sewed and pieces joined at shoulder and came to putting the collar on which is then followed by the facing - now I did a dress with collar and lapels a few days ago - it was NOT done this way and it turned out fine. I'm afraid at this point I've wasted time, fabric, interfacing and am frustrated to no end.

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I'm assuming it meant that you have to sort of turn the entire jacket and facing at a 45 degree angle to go around that part at the end of the collar and it's supposed to line it up - for the life of me I can't get it to and I've been pulling out stitches until it's almost too far gone since it ravels. What am I missing here. "Fold the jacket at the neck clip so the jacket neckline opens to match the collar neck curve" - FOLD? I am not considered stupid but to me this whole THING is stupid!

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Date: 8/7/12 3:14 PM

Is the "fold" just referring to that corner end? The collar triangle to the jacket shoulder seam part? The diagram shows the jacket sort of folded so those raw edges are even.

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Date: 8/7/12 3:42 PM

That's just it - you have the neckline of the jacket going straight like it always does and it seems to want you to snip that part down to the "reinforcement" it said to sew over the "dot" that was marked there and then turn around and sew the collar to that and make the straight part of the neckline do a sudden 45 degree turn around that little crosswise part at the end of the collar - then in turn do the same thing with the neckline of the facing, sandwich the collar (and all the interfacings) between the jacket and the facing and come out with a nice smooth thing - well, it's worse than it would be trying to put a huge sleeve ease into a small armhole without any tucks - it's the stupidist thing I've ever seen! And I was doing everything so nice until I came to this ridiculous way of doing lapels and collar! It's a Connie Crawford pattern - turns me off on ever getting any of hers again! I think it is pretty much ruined.

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Date: 8/8/12 9:25 AM

If I understand your question I think the instructions want you to pivot at the neck clip, meaning leave the needle down, raise the pressure foot, rotate the garment enough to align the seam, lower the pressure foot, and stitch the rest of the seam.

Is that the confusion? You are turning a corner.

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Date: 8/8/12 9:45 AM

yes - that is what it means - however for me the clipping that little corner on the jacket as well as the facing just did not work - the whole thing is a mess and I think hopeless now. you have to have all the interfaced layers of the collar, the interfaced facing and the jacket itself lined up perfectly and use a 3/8" seam which comes to exactly where you reinforce stitch the little clip and then all the fabric has to lay smoothly. Actually I wrote to Connie Crawford and she responded this morning - she said the directions were misleading and she has a problem with Butterick changing the wording she provides but that doing it the way we all agree is correct worked on things they tried. For some reason it just does not for me - you are still, in effect, taking a straight edge and making it go around a corner with just a little clip that has to go all the way to the line you are supposed to be attaching it all together on, with all those layers sandwiched in there and I'm apparently a big klutz! LOL Why it couldn't be done the same way the dress I finished the other day was I don't know.

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Date: 8/8/12 10:02 AM

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Actually I wrote to Connie Crawford and she responded this morning - she said the directions were misleading and she has a problem with Butterick changing the wording she provides

Wow, this is quite interesting. Did she say what wording she had provided?

Maybe she needs to move to a different pattern company, if this is true.

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Date: 8/8/12 10:09 AM

It's wonderful to get a prompt response from a designer. I wish I could help you more. It sounds like you've lost hope.

Have you?

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Date: 8/8/12 10:24 AM

yep - I think it's just too raveled and messed up that even if I could get every stitch out and start over I think I'd have to trim some off and not sure how that would end up looking. I would really have to work up to even wanting to try that now - my nature is more to give up and move on to something else but I think from now on with complicated construction I'm reading the instructions before I ever cut something out and may decide not to use a particular pattern. It is nice of her to respond to everyone and the original response from the site said her husband was recovering from surgery so it may take awhile for her to get back to me - then next morning there it was. She even said I could call but I just don't think anything can be done.

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Date: 8/8/12 10:40 AM

Sometimes when I can't get my head around the best approach, I just put the project away. It may take a while, or just a night to get it figured out. Sleeping on it has helped me resolve more than one problem. You may find it best to toss the instructions and use the method you used in the past that gave you successful results.

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Date: 8/8/12 11:08 AM

That's true. Of course the thing is CUT differently so not sure how to go back. I actually got another response back from Connie just now - she said if I were near one of her workshops she would like to see it and show me how to fix it. I had mentioned that I hoped her husband's recovery was going well and she said he had to be moved to a different hospital and is still very ill so she is spending most time with him - yet she answered me twice now! Sort of amazing!

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