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Date: 8/7/12 7:27 PM

So I ***thought*** I was finally coming to some decisions. HA!

First for a new *sewing* machine.

I have $500 down on an Elna Excellence...was going to "bail her out" (of layby) this month. But now I'm leaning towards getting the Janome equivalent because of the difference in dealer pricing. Elna gal wants $2,700 for the machine and another $600 for the table. I've spent over $3,000 in this store in the last 2-3 months - and she still is a real stickler for pricing. :::::ugh::::

Another store (30 miles farther away than the first) will let go of a Janome Horizon and the same table for $2,500.

About that $500 I have hung on that Excellence: I also intend to buy a second Lotus (I bought one for my granddaughter earlier this summer - it's a great little machine). So I'm thinkin' of just using the $500 I have banked there towards the 2nd Lotus and going the Horizon route for a new machine for me.

Then... let's talk the ***embroidery*** machine world...

I went to a Floriani software event on Friday. Love that. It was held at a Babylock dealer. He's doing another event (John Deer) in October and will be cracking open a bunch o' Ellisimo Golds and offered me the EG for $7k. I love the camera do-hicky as well as the tablet.

The dude that is selling the Horizon also sells Brother - so he's more than willing to match pricing to get a Quattro 2 out the door.

Both the Horizon guy and the Babylock store owner are real sweethearts. There are other dealers around town that I've heard some bad things about... and I also ruled out getting Pfaff or Viking because the local store that sells those has a real snootiness to it that just rubs me wrong all over the place.

After all... shouldn't this be a uber-fun purchase?!?!? I digress.

Oh ... so back to the embroidery world....

That new Horizon 12000 is darn awesome lookin' - I still LOVE the way the embroidery arm works off the backside (and folds up again) on that machine and on the Elna equivalent. The Janome also has an uber-neat feature of a small embroidery hoop that will work on the free arm for sleeves, baby clothes, etc. ... BUT... the Janome pricing seems outta whack (about $9,000!!!!!) given the Brother/Babylock world has the camera and tablet thing going on. The guy that sells the Horizons says he's not even going to stock the 12000 because someone would be better off getting into a 6 needle machine instead. I kinda agree.

So ... I might bail entirely from getting a sewing machine that doubles as embroidery... and I might just look towards the 6 needle options and enjoy playin' with my new *sewing* machine for a month or two, first. Thinkin' of attending the John Deer event in October and get a good look at the EGs first hand for a couple of days before makin' any decisions on the Emb. machine side.

I think I'm gonna have brain damage before this is all over. lol

(I think I'm just messed up because I've been away for toooooo long and trying to get back into the groove of new sewing equipment is an extremely overwhelming thing!


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Subject: Starting to have Analysis Paralysis ... Date: 8/7/12 7:48 PM

Sounds like you have 'sewing machine fever'. I know because I've been there.

What's your main purpose for buying a new machine? Sewing, embroidery or some of both? I have a Babylock sewing and embroidery machine. I went wild with the embroidery when I first got it and still use it from time to time because it does a beautiful job. Mostly I use it for the garment sewing that I've done for years. Tomorrow, tho, I plan to embroider a design for a gift, so I'm glad that I have both options.

I'm guessing that by a 6-needle machine you mean embroidery only. That seems like overkill to me unless you plan to do it professionally.

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Date: 8/7/12 8:02 PM

Thanks for the response!

Yeah... a little fever. Just a little.

I guess I'm trying to buy a setup that I won't be disappointed in.

I don't think I'd like to be limited to one machine - IOW, I would like to be able to assemble something while the embroidery machine is chugging out a design.

And honestly... the 6 needle machine prices aren't that out of reach compared to what some of these companies are charging for embroidery sewing machines!

Gotta run... I'll be back later. :)

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Date: 8/7/12 9:03 PM

Well I understand about the brain freeze. Were it me I'd go for the Elissimo, if you have room for it. For me, I have to have flat bed sewing. That machine woul be too large. Only you can decide if embroidery is important enough to you to get a 6 needle.
That table for the Elna is very solid and I was impressed. Its not large but well thought out, with the hole for the knee lift. I'm not partial to the Janomes but many here are. I'd wait till you get to play with all three first. Then be thinking about embroidery. I have a friend looking at the 6 needle, and for her it would make sense. For me, no. I am in the process of deciding weather I still want to do it. Probably so, so I'm not making any rash moves right now. Do keep us informed!

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Date: 8/7/12 9:04 PM

I can't help with your decision other than to say the Elna 740 w/ table is WAY too much...but the horizon w/ table at $2500 seems an ok (acceptable) price. The Ellisimo is a great machine with a lot of capability. I don't know much about the 6-needle models but aren't they designed more for people who make a business of embroidering? I do agree tho that if embroidery is your primary objective, then the TOL combos have now exceeded the price of a 6-needle machine.
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Subject: Starting to have Analysis Paralysis ... Date: 8/7/12 10:24 PM

I agree. The Horizon retails for $3k right? Then the price for that combo sounds right. My dealer has the Elna in the table and I'll have to get that price too. His is likely high as well.

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Date: 8/7/12 10:30 PM

Have you seen this deal Brother is offering?
Brother promo

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Date: 8/7/12 11:59 PM

Quote: SouthernStitch
I agree. The Horizon retails for $3k right? Then the price for that combo sounds right. My dealer has the Elna in the table and I'll have to get that price too. His is likely high as well.

The Horizon probably has a $3k MSRP.... this guy has it for $2,200 and because he's moving (his excuse for negotiating - it seems that Elna/Janome have to make excuses to negotiate, IMO!) ... anyway.... because he's moving, he'll take another 5% off. So basically about $2,100. $2,500 with the table.

Compare that to the Elna at $2,700 and she'll give me 2% off for not using a credit card... so basically (I think) she'll come down to $2,300 but wants another $600 for the table.

Let me know what you find out.

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Date: 8/8/12 0:04 AM

Yeah... (about the Brother deal) ... thanks... was told about that today.

I'm thinkin' I'm not quite ready to plunk down the bucks for the embroidery capabilities - at least yet. (And I need another laptop like a hole in my head)

The guy offered me the Quattro 2 with the software for $7k. $6,500 without.

So I guess I'm gonna have to bounce between the dealers to see how low they can go, huh? I like both of them... so it probably will come down to price between the Brother and Babylock.... except that I haven't diagnosed if there are any major differences between the designs that come with each of them.

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Subject: Starting to have Analysis Paralysis ... Date: 8/8/12 0:09 AM

The 7700 was $2000 with table, trolley, thread set and other promo gifts AND a 3160 (retail in my area $700) at a recent show in Northern IL.

Of course, prices vary by region, but I think $3K is WAY too much for either the Elna or Janome with just the table. Nice machine, though.

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