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Subject: HSN Singer embroidery machines Date: 9/14/12 9:14 AM

I caught the demo for this between tv shows last night.
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They were throwing in some software which made it a rather good deal. But that's where the problems began with the demo.

They never mention that you had to hook it up the computer to do embroidery. They mentioned you could, not that you had to. I wonder how many people ordered this and when the get it realized they need a computer next to it. I know, by looking at machine you would think it's obvious but people who are impluse buying and I would think that is 50% of their business....

They say it's four machines in one which is an absolute lie. There is no such thing as a "quilting" machine and they are stretching it being a serging machine.

I mean it would be a great second embroidery machine if just for the software alone for the price. But be honest about it. I know from when Singer first introduced these machines people had lots of problems with them. I would that would have improved by now of has it. I'm interested to learning from you that own them how you like them.

Edited to add I just read the reviews at HSN seems things haven't changed much since these type machines were introduced.
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Date: 9/14/12 10:30 AM

Snake-oil salesmen/women as still alive and just as deplorable as ever.

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Date: 9/14/12 10:57 AM

Singer had some great embroidery machines I wonder why they just didn't stick with them. And the had some great pre-embroidery machines one of which I have. I guess since Ownership changed hands. That's when there TOL machines were made by Happy and Juki both Japanese companies not China.

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Date: 9/14/12 11:17 AM

Thanks for the insight. I would love a simple embroidery machine, basically to do monograms and create my own emblem to put on clothes--and I think that is called digitalizing--have not researched. Anyway, I have to say, the lady--can't think of her name but has the red hair, I thought she was credible after seeing her warehouse of sewing machines and the time she puts into sewing (YouTube video) but now I see it's just fluff. I wonder how these people sleep at night? I know there's some emblishments to sell the product--look at all the baggy crotches and pucked seams on their pull on pants...do I sound like Michael Kors?

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Date: 9/14/12 11:45 AM

Darlene *IS* credible. The specs for that machine are clearly there on the website including the USB connectivity. I think people who are going to spend that much money will either check out the specs online or do comparison shopping before they blindly pick up the phone. If they don't it sure isn't our worry. HSN is a reliable vendor, easy enough to return things to, and although that particular machine has no appeal for me on several levels, aesthetics being one, I think there is no snake oil involved. Darlene works for Singer. Other manufacturer also employ salespersons who are crafters to sell their products. It behooves folks to check out whatever they are thinking of purchasing, and this machine is not an exception.

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Date: 9/14/12 11:49 AM

I'm not a HSN person and never will be. But let's face it their job is to sell. And I just thought it was a tad misleading. Sure informed sewers like ourselves wouldn't get it past us, but I could someone who is thinking about this and hears 4 machines in one. Well I could see the appeal especially if I had limited funds for this. I just thought they didn't press the point home that you need a computer to embroider with this machine. And take away the computer you have pretty simple sewing machine.
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Date: 9/14/12 11:52 AM

I watched too. I did not get the impression you did.

The embroidery machine Darlene demoed has no LCD screen on it. Darlene said many embroidery machines do have screens and that some are small. But consumers could clearly see this machine had none. Then Darlene went on to say something to the effect that you do use your big computer screen to set up your embroidery.

I have the show taped, but even without rewatching it, I totally understood that you need your computer to set up for embroidery. And I would think that anyone who has the slightest urge to do machine embroidery would know that some kind of screen is needed somewhere to set for it.

As far as the machine being a 4 in one, well that's just silly in some respects--the serger part that is. It has that little cutter presser foot and it does a poor impression of what a serger does but in no way qualifies as a serger and all they can do. However, Darlene did show it in action so any buyer knows what they are buying with the cutter/serger presser foot. The machine does sew and embroider--parts 2 and 3. It has quilting stitches and extended room in the harp area which quilters like and accounts for the quilting part. So that's the 4 parts. I really did not think it was so misleading.

In this same vein, many times I've seen Darlene demo a SM that has 7mm stitching and includes an alphabet. She will stitch out words on air so the consumer can clearly see them. Yet, later on in the reviews, a buyer will complain that the alphabet is too little to be used for monograms or that the letters can't be enlarged. Hello.....it's a 7mm machine. Sometimes, the reviews (not just on HSN-across the Internet) make me upset.

Actually, the on air presentation from last night of this machine can be watched now. HSN has it available by clicking on the video under the photo of the machine: Singer Futura Quartet Machine

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