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What I found out at my trip to the dealer
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Date: 10/3/12 4:04 PM

FWIW - Yesterday I visited a Babylock dealer to try out their CS and Enlighten machines. I was surprised when the owner told me I could use regular Schmetz needles in the CS machine - I didn't have to use special needles! I told him that was one of the things I liked about my Brother serger - the fact that I didn't need special needles. I *think* he also said regular Schmetz SM needles could be used in the Enlighten serger too, but I'm not 100% positive and will definitely need to confirm that the next time I speak with him.

Do those of you who own these machines already know this? I thought I had read that you needed to use special needles with these CS and serger machines because of the scarf or shaft or something. Maybe this is a (nice) new development for some of these newer BL's?

Another thing he said I found interesting.... that the newer model Imagines now have the same smaller presser foot/turning radius as the Enlighten has. He said the distinctions between the 2 machines were the size of the looper thread hole ports, something to do with the jet-air threading mechanism (sorry can't remember exactly what it was called ), the wave stitch and the LED lighting...but the narrower turn radius is no longer a game changer between the Enlighten and the new Imagines.

ETA: now if I could only spell.... I might be dangerous -LOL Please make believe seger is serger in the topic line
-- Edited on 10/3/12 4:08 PM --

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Date: 10/4/12 7:55 AM

I use the cs machine at work, and we use regular schcmetz. I own the top of the line BL cover/serger combo, and also use reg schcmetz sm needles. No problems!

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Date: 10/4/12 8:28 AM

Yes, you can use size 12 and 14 universal needles in your Baby Lock Enlighten and Cover Stitch machines. Schmetz and Klasse needles are both good brands.

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Date: 10/4/12 10:09 AM

I have the older Imagine and use regular needles.

I also have the BL CS and use the special needles as advised by my dealer. Maybe I will try an experiment based on this info. Maybe I won't get skipped stitches.

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Date: 10/4/12 10:25 AM

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Maybe I won't get skipped stitches
I didn't think the BLCS's did this! I ordered that little bugger too! Actually, another thing he mentioned relating to the CS needles, was that for the more tightly knit wovens, the more stretchy fabrics, etc. I should use whatever type needle I would use to sew a hem in the SM, i.e. stretch needle, microtex, jersey ball point, denim, etc for the best results. I mentioned I also used Organ BP needles in addition to the Schmetz, but I don't remember whether or not he commented one way or another on that.

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Date: 10/4/12 10:40 PM

You ordered the BL, Hazelnut ?!
Enjoy !

Me, I'll be in Toronto next week for the Creativ Festival and have every intention of continuing my research on CS machines. If a good deal is to be had, I just MIGHT come home with a new baby.

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Date: 10/6/12 8:35 AM

Good to know Claire! We can help you out next week!

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Date: 10/8/12 2:14 PM

Quote: hazelnut
[QUOTE] Maybe I won't get skipped stitches
I didn't think the BLCS's did this! I ordered that little bugger too! Actually, another thing he mentioned relating to the CS needles, was that for the more tightly knit wovens, the more stretchy fabrics, etc. I should use whatever type needle I would use to sew a hem in the SM, i.e. stretch needle, microtex, jersey ball point, denim, etc for the best results. I mentioned I also used Organ BP needles in addition to the Schmetz, but I don't remember whether or not he commented one way or another on that.



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I don't get skipped stitches with the recommended needles for the CS. I will try regular needles to find out if that is also true for them.
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