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Message Board > Sergers, Coverstitch and Blindhemmers > Coverstitch ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

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Date: 10/15/12 3:33 AM

In my research I believe I have learned the harp is the space between the needle and the machineoin a coverstitch machine.
I am pretty much decided on a babylock coverstitch... However, I have noticed this space mentioned above is definitely smaller than on the Janome coverstitch.
Does this cause hardship if using coverstitch on inseams? Does the workspace feel cramped on the babylock?
On my RTW jeans it looks like they used a coverstitch on the inside inseams.
I have zero experience with coverstitch machine but have a Babylock
Imagine (serger) I am delighted with.
Thanks for any input. I am 3 to 5 hours away from the nearest place for hands on testing.

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Date: 10/15/12 12:52 PM

The double row of stitches you see on the inseam of jeans is not a coverstitch.

Its what is called a felled seam that you do on your sewing machine.

I was worried about the small harp space on the BL but I bought one and its hasn't been a problem for hemming knits.

I was worried that if I wanted to use the CS as a decorative element in the body of a garment then that would be a problem. I haven't had the need yet but kept my older 5 thread Husklock just in case. Haven't used it and should probably sell it.

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Date: 10/15/12 2:05 PM

I agree - I've got a Bernina that converts to cover and never find that space is an issue.

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Date: 10/15/12 3:32 PM

On RTW, flat felled seams are made with a specialized sewing machine that home sewers are unlikely to have in their sewing room. You certainly can do flat felled seams on your home sewing machine, but if you wondered how they get those FF seams along the entire length of a pair of jeans, check out the sewing machine at time stamp 2:47 in this video.

Video: How It's Made Jeans (If this link is not active, just Google "video how it's made jeans".)

Note also the machine at 3:42 that sews on the waistband in one pass.

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Date: 10/15/12 3:48 PM

I think you need to go to your closet, and also purses and camping gear, and any "heavy stuff" and turn everything inside out everyplace you can, and look at it again, where it has that "looks much the same kind of stitching" as in straight stitch paraellel rows, and you will actually find that none or very little of it is ever done with a "cover stitch" with a looper and not a sewing machine with a bobbin there instead. At least on just that particular kind of stuff, and not on some knit top or dress or such instead.

It just kind of looks like "cover stitching, only from the top side instead on those kind of things most times, but really no looper threads trailing back and forth on the back instead. Because if you don't, I think you will really buy a cover stitch machine, then just find that out in the end afterwards anyways, but if you do it now instead, it would be much better to see that now than later, so then you don't have that a hah moment later, after you have bought a tool for something, it's just not used for for times. So, etter to know now, than later :)

So someone might be able to use a cover stitch for some of that stuff on very light weight fabric if you wanted to, but stuff sold in the stores is not made like that at all, especially most purses and camping equipment. The parallel rows of stitching on the bottom of a lot polar fleece pull overs or jackets, that are maybe worn while camping would be though. And you would see the trailing looper threads going back and forth on the backside of those. Also, I think pretty much no real good applications for a cover stitch on most blue jeans at all. But just go back and look at all that stuff from the wrong sides and inside of it, because that is where you have to be looking at it from, to even tell that.

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Date: 10/15/12 10:18 PM

WOW, all you guys are so informed. I got hold of the sewing salesman and he informed me of this very fact. It is NOT a coverstitch on jeans
I can tell as soon as it is pointed out to me so maybe there is hope
I hope I have a good salesman. He has used both the Janome and BL and seems to be quite informed.
Thank you for all your help

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Date: 10/16/12 2:54 AM

I have the Evolution and use the coverstitch for PJs, Ts, belt loops, apron strings, etc. I haven't gotten it to work well with bulky seams- like cover stitching or serging over a jeans crotch where heavy bulky seams overlap. It handles knits very well. I use it on boys pants to serge all the cut out denim pieces, then construct mostly on my sewing machine. Love my serger for long hems and pant leg outside seams. The harp is just fine for that. 90% though is working with knits, slinky, sheers, and silks. For me the serger is my go-to machine to control these.

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Date: 10/16/12 4:16 AM

A mock flat felled seam can by done by either sewing machine then trimming the seam fabric edges or by using your serger 4-5 thread on heavy fabrics for the seam that trims the edges as it sews then pressing the seam to one side then cover stitch the pressed seam.

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Date: 10/16/12 5:46 PM

Since I had a BL serger and was extremely pleased, when my dealer showed me the features of a coverstitch machine, I didn't hesitate and also bought the BL Coverstitch from him.
Baby Lock makes a quality product and I have enjoyed my BL coverstitch machine, but find I don't use it nearly as much as the serger. I use it mainly for hemming, and applying binding on garments.
A really cool feature that any coverstitch machine can perform involves using different colored threads, and then making designs on the fabric with the threads as you sew. It solves the problem of finding a matching fabric since the different threads makes the fabrics blend in color....and this where I have found that the small harp is a distinct disadvantage.....so much so, that I have wished many, many times that I had known more about the need for it to be larger. I would not have purchased a BL for that reason alone. The small harp has really limited its value to me.
I paid over $800 for a machine that is used mainly to just hem knits.
I applaud you that you are doing your research.

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