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Message Board > Sewing Machines > "Quilting" machines ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 11/2/12 1:50 PM

With all the new machines coming out I did some research. Every major Brand has a machine geared toward quilters, even though they are perfectly good machines to sew just about anything.
Janome Horizon
Viking Sapphire
Pfaff Quilt expression
Babylock Crescendo
Brother Dreamweaver

Now of course there are a few others but these models seem to be the TOL of these type machines. And I'm wondering why are these models all in the price range of $3k-5k so expensive. The only features that make them stand out from other sewing machines are the feed systems and harp size. Most of the other features can be found on sewing machines that cost much less. And most have a generous stitch package something quilter's don't necessary need. As most quilting is straight stitching. I'm just curious what features make them so expensive. I could understand these prices if these machines were embroidery combos. But as straight sewing machines I think they are way overpriced. Are they priced this much as this is what the market will bear? I think we might be getting a little ripped off here. Not that if I had the money wouldn't buy one as I'm currently in love with several of them. But I could make a quilt on my $60 refurbished Fashion Mate 237, a copy of the first machine I ever had. All that does is straight and zigzag.

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Date: 11/2/12 1:57 PM

AND, for just quilting (no offense in the JUST there either - I love it) I would think one would choose the Brother 1500S, the Babylock equivalent, a JUKI 2010 and so on....And the Janomes and Pfaff like the Grand Quilter. The Janome 6500, 6300, and Elnas in thatr same configuration are great for the purpose. And how many videos do you see where someone is creating beautiful stuff on a low and mid lione machine either vintage or newish....;)

Oh yes, well, pricing is "what they think the market will bear" coupled with the pervasive thought that some people will be impressed by a high price.

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Date: 11/2/12 2:21 PM

But they are pretty to pet are they not? lol

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Subject: Quilting machines Date: 11/2/12 2:27 PM

I have no idea. For me personally I think my personal ideal settup whereby I could do everything I want to ever possibly do would be a Janome Jem 760 (for the decorative stitches, small size, start stop button, take to classes) and a Juki 2010 Q for power, harp size, adjutable presser foor pressure, actual quilting and jeans construction etc...

Or some similar combination

That's just me. I've seen the Horizon etc. But quilting can really beat the hell our of a machine, especially jeans quilting. I get wanintg 1726356463728 stitches for crazy quilt block construction and garment sewing, but I think the actual quilting part should be on something a little robust. In my totally limited opinion.. possible worthless.

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Subject: Quilting machines Date: 11/2/12 2:28 PM

But you know... I've only been garment sewing for 13 years and quilting for 3. So far my quilts are kinda big too.

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Date: 11/2/12 2:43 PM

This is what started me out lookinf for a new sm---I wanted one geared towards quilting--which meant, for me, a large harp, good lighting, and table (since most come with an extra table). When I started out, I thought, I want a GOOD quilting machine, but not a longarm since we don't have room and I'm only a beginner quilter IMHO----so I figured I'd need to spend probably $2000. I was SHOCKED when I found out that, no, I need to start at $3000 at least (for my area) to get just the three things I listed above.

Now I also like to sew clothes and I like to do decorative stitches for placemats, etc., so I decided to look at other machines too and I started noticing that I could get embroidery also for around the same price! I couldn't believe it. So before I knew it, I had myself talked into $5000 sewing machine with embroidery combo and had everything I originally wanted. I never bought it, since I also was interested to see the 7 series by Bernina that was due to come out at the time. (haven't seen it in person yet).

When I bought my current Pfaff 2134 years ago, my DH and I were very surprised at the technology used in the embroidery---it was old technology in terms of the computer world--thus we couldn't believe the price and what technology you got with that price. The sewing machines look to be getting more in-line with the computer world, but their price tags sure are rising as a result! And there prices don't fall really, unlike the computer world.

So sometimes I wonder where it started with the bench-mark price starting out high for the TOL machines and some bought it, thus the industry just kept basing the next pricing on what it was able to get with the last machine, etc.

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Date: 11/2/12 3:19 PM

The BabyLock Symphony/Brother NX-2000 Laura Ashley are geared towards quilters, too and well under $2500. They come with attachments any quilter would want, including a large double spool holder that fastens to the back of the machine.

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Date: 11/2/12 3:49 PM

Great topic -- i was thinking about it last night.

Because, the things I want now (in a machine) are really not the same as even a few months ago - The Grand Quilter I have really has every thing I NEED for what I am interested in doing.

Im running a quilt production studio right now in my house and quilt quality hand made quilts all day.

Sure, Ive looked at other machines and get excited when new ones come out - I used to love stitches and I used them all of the time -- but, I got out of liking how that looked. - I even prefer raw edge straight stitch applique at this point (as compared to deco stitching the edge.)

Im turned off my language that infers exclusivity to the quilting world -- like "Must Have" - "Always" - and - "Presice"

I find those who use those words are full of just that - words. They never post pics of their masterpieces or have gallery shows or create much of anything at all -- but, they've got all the "right" tools and tell every new quilter that the tools make the products --

Anyhow -- to the point -- I think its the mystique of quilting that makes people want the most pimped out machine. We get sold a bill of goods by the quilting markets and other quilters that the supplies will help us make better quilts. And, thats really not true -

Practice and more practice make us better quilters.

Machines dont make better quilts - Better quilters make better quilts.

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Date: 11/2/12 4:21 PM

"Machines don't make better quilts - Better quilters make better quilts."

Excellent point

That's the way I feel about my 9 year old embroidery machine. I have no desire to do bigger designs. I don't have the time to sit there and do them. I will never need to do anything bigger then a 5 x 7. And it does that flawlessly. I don't need a big fancy machine to sew squares and triangles together just a decent one and my Janome provides that also.

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Date: 11/2/12 4:24 PM

I know there will be those who want to cut me for saying those things - or imply I think Im some great talent .. i dont think that.

I think I have great color sense that makes up for my not so great quilting skill -- but, I work on my skills all the time.

Im not where I want to be -- but, Im lots better than I was -- and Im pretty happy with my work.

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