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I think I'm just a vintage gal
Contemplating returning new Juki to HSN
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Date: 11/4/12 6:33 PM

It hasn't been 30 days yet, but I have had time to play with the HZL-K85. It is an okay machine. The stitches, especially the decorative ones are nice. The straight stitch could be better despite my multiple adjustments, but it is okay.

That being said, it just doesn't have the solid feel that my old Morse has. I do like the needle up down, and the stitches at the punch of a button, but I just don't like the plasticky feel. That solid metal is like driving a big old car that floats on the road. The Juki is nice, but I'm just not sure that I like it as much as I though I would.

Perhaps I just need to wait and buy a simple embroidery only machine for the designs and monograms I'd like to do. I haven't made my mind up yet since I still have about 5 more days. Any suggestions?

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Date: 11/4/12 6:36 PM

I forgot to add that the stitches just aren't as perfect as my old Morse either. I'm limited on space, and I really don't want to keep the machine if I'm not in love with it. I DO enjoy less prep to sew with everything at the touch of a button, but I don't like the end result as well. Does that make sense?

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Date: 11/4/12 7:35 PM

Yes, it makes sense.

Just so you know, I have zero experience with Juki.

Have you looked at the newish all Juki discussion thread? Maybe the model you got from HSN is an in between model; something with attractive bells and whistles but missing more advanced features to provide better performance. Perhaps there is a different Juki that you would enjoy working with.

For sure, if it is not feeling right, return it. I totally understand as I have a thirty year old machine that I would love to have cloned - exactly as it was made originally.

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Subject: I think Im just a vintage gal Date: 11/4/12 7:50 PM

If you are not in love, return it. The newer machines are very different in feel from the vintage, and you have to buy the high end computerized to get near the stitch quality of the vintage. I love vintage and used to have a collection, but in my old age, I have moved to computerized. I no longer have to worry about bobbin tension, threading the needle, turning the flywheel continuously in fine detail work. I have become accustomed to the plastic. There are differences in plastic, however. You will probably need to spend twice as much as you did to get a solid quality feeling machine. I have not sewn on Juki so I am just surmising, but the transition from vintage to computerized can be quite an adjustment.

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Subject: I think Im just a vintage gal Date: 11/4/12 8:41 PM

Thank you both, for your replies. The machine does okay. I can't tell much difference between it and the Bernina Aurora 450 I had, really. It's just the all metal, sturdy feel that I like a lot. I am going to put them side by side tomorrow and stitch them out. I may keep the new one for its advantages and get an old cabinet for my old Morse and keep it for its advantages. I'll just have to see how they compare side by side, including buttonholes (greist with the vintage), and if it's worth it to keep the new one.

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Date: 11/4/12 9:24 PM

I just watched the HSN lesson thing -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hn0WrXhw5U

It looks like a nice machine -- I dont know why but this particular teacher/sales lady bugs me .. I felt bad for her when she broke her needle. Thats how I put the timing out on my Smarter.

I like the sound the machine makes.

If it aint werking for ya - send it back!

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Date: 11/5/12 2:59 AM

After I adjusted the bobbin case, the sound had gotten much better. However, the straight stitch is just terrible - crooked stitches, tension not right, and I have done everything to the tension. I also don't like the way you have to adjust the stitch length on the machine, because if you get it in a good setting, then it automatically sets itself to default when you turn the machine off and back on. The final nail on the coffin - the buttonholes. On the keyhole one, it completely moved the rounded end of the keyhole off to the side. The buttonholes it did right were NOTHING compared to my vintage Greist buttonholer.

Alas, I have packed the machine back up in its original box to send back. Before I said that I couldn't tell much difference between it and the Bernina 450 I once had. After playing with it more, that Bernina 450 was my dream machine. I'll be waiting a long time to save enough to get one again, but that is just what I'll have to do. I won't be happy with anything else.

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Date: 11/5/12 9:07 AM

I'm so sad you are not liking your new Juki machine.
There is a learning curve in using new machines. They have many more options in settings than older machines and this should help you to get better results on certain fabrics.
Juki machines might seem very plastic on the outside but under the shiney cover they are all good solid metal machines.
I personally have the Juki F600 and find it is the best machine I have ever owned. Better than my Bernina 580 that does not transport fabrics as well as the Juki and it is surely noisier than the Juki when sewing.
Also I don't like having to oil my machine every 2 or 3 bobbins like on many Bernina's. I find it makes the machine dirty and a little smelly inside, oiling is not needed to be done on many new machines nowadays.
Vintage machines are surely good solid horses especially over thick seams but a good electronic machine is way better for me.

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Subject: I think Im just a vintage gal Date: 11/5/12 9:43 AM

I've yet to sit down at a sewing machine made in the last 10 years that doesn't feel like cheap plastic. I have a great Elna 6005, which was expensive at the time, about $1200, but I only ever use it when I absolutely need to. All my sewing is done now on a SInger 201-2. It feels like a tank and drives like a Porsche. You won't get that feeling from a new machine, no matter the brand, or how much you spend.

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Date: 11/5/12 12:29 PM

I'm beginning to believe you are right. The only thing I dislike about my Morse is the hassle of changing out feet, but the end result is so much better that it is worth it.

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