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Choosing a Janome which is best for thickness changes?
Jess6691 Intermediate UT Member since 11/17/12 Posts: 9	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 11/17/12 9:19 PM My first ever sewing machine, a New Home 660, given to me as a high school graduation present in 1984, has finally died. I need advice about a new machine and, even after reading a ton of product reviews, have questions that I hope someone here can answer. I mainly machine piece quilts, make skirts, dresses, and the occasional shirt that requires buttonholes, although I would like to make a few blazers in velvet and corduroy. My main question is which non-computerized machine can best handle thickness changes when hemming denim or corduroy. I have been looking into the HD 1000, Sewist 500, and Magnolia 7318. I realize there are many posts on all of these, but none of them addressed thickness changes. My real problem is that the closest Janome dealer doesn't sell any of these models, only lower end mechanical machines and more expensive computerized ones with features I neither need nor want. Unless I drive 150 plus miles, I won't be testing the machines I'm interested in, so I need advice before I buy from an internet dealer. I have no preference regarding front or top loading bobbins, and although the 1 step buttonhole sounds great, from what I've read I think I am better off with the 4. My budget is around $250-300. Thanks for your help! Jess
dukaqwn   Intermediate MS USA Member since 2/12/09 Posts: 447	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 11/17/12 9:37 PM Have you considered the HD3000? It would be a step up from the HD1000, and AllBrands has it for 349.00. It has the superior feed system. If you go to the site, you'll have to type in "janome HD3000" in the search box to see it. It doesn't appear under the Janome sewing machines otherwise. ------ http://sewtarot.blogspot.com/
Jess6691 Intermediate UT Member since 11/17/12 Posts: 9	Login to reply to this post In reply to dukaqwn << Like this post Date: 11/17/12 9:42 PM I have thought about the HD3000, so thanks for letting me know about AllBrands as it won't break my budget. I mainly want to get piecing again during the holiday season, but the whole hemming thing is what did in my old machine in the end! Thanks for you suggestion!
sew2006 Advanced ON CANADA Member since 6/24/06 Posts: 1704	Login to reply to this post In reply to Jess6691 << 1 member likes this. Date: 11/17/12 10:43 PM For quilt piecing stay with a drop in bobbin machine. The full rotary hook inside the machine makes a full rotation for each stitch rather than an oscilating hook on front load machine's that make two 1/2 circle rotations for each stitch. When chain piecing an oscilating hook is more prone to jamming while taking stitches between fabric squares. For heavier fabrics such as jeans, you can grade the seam allowance to reduce bulk. Use a hammer to flaten down the bulk prior to sewing. ------ Janome10001, Babylock ESG3, Brother ULT 2001, White 634D serger, Pfaff 1472, Singer featherweight, Singer 14T957Dc, Bernina FunLock 009DCC coverlock, Brother PQ1500S, Janome CP900.
Maia B   Advanced Beginner IL USA Member since 10/27/10 Posts: 3395	Login to reply to this post 1 member likes this. Date: 11/17/12 11:40 PM I have to respectfully disagree that a drop-in bobbin is better for piecing. Vertical bobbin systems can have either oscillating or rotary hooks. A LOT of quilt piecing is done on featherweights, Berninas, older Pfaffs, straight stitchers like the Juki 2010 et all. Plenty of recognized master quilters use vertical bobbin machines. There are pros and cons to each system, but rest assured that a vertical bobbin system is perfectly suitable for quilt piecing. ------ 🌸 Plenty of machines, mostly Berninas 🌸
Mufffet   Intermediate VT USA Member since 8/14/05 Posts: 8914	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 11/18/12 0:04 AM In the first place, quilt piecing is nothing but sewing for goodness sake, and no matter what type of vertical bobbin you have, it can do that quite well on many a machine. Over time I have sewn most often on machines with vertical bobbins. I like drop ins for the convenience, but have found that now and then they can be fussy, and that is true of all machines from time to time. I see no reason at all not to piece on whatever machine you have. They are made for sewing, after all. What needs to be there is some quality in the machine at any price and the willingness of hte user to learn how to use the machine, and to care for the bobbin area whatever type it may be, how to chose needles and thread and so on. ------ "Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible." --Dalai Lama I have sewing machines
sew2006 Advanced ON CANADA Member since 6/24/06 Posts: 1704	Login to reply to this post In reply to Jess6691 << Like this post Date: 11/18/12 2:49 AM For quilt piecing stay with a drop in bobbin machine. The full rotary hook inside the machine makes a full rotation for each stitch rather than an oscilating hook on front load machine's that make two 1/2 circle rotations for each stitch. When chain piecing an oscilating hook is more prone to jamming while taking stitches between fabric squares. For heavier fabrics such as jeans, you can grade the seam allowance to reduce bulk. Use a hammer to flaten down the bulk prior to sewing jean hems. Even the Bernina 830 comes with a hump jumper tool. ------ Janome10001, Babylock ESG3, Brother ULT 2001, White 634D serger, Pfaff 1472, Singer featherweight, Singer 14T957Dc, Bernina FunLock 009DCC coverlock, Brother PQ1500S, Janome CP900.
dukaqwn   Intermediate MS USA Member since 2/12/09 Posts: 447	Login to reply to this post In reply to Jess6691 << Like this post Date: 11/18/12 8:01 AM I don't know if you have viewed this or not on the Sewist 500, but it shows its capability with thickness changes. sewist 500 thickness changes ------ http://sewtarot.blogspot.com/
dukaqwn   Intermediate MS USA Member since 2/12/09 Posts: 447	Login to reply to this post In reply to Jess6691 << Like this post Date: 11/18/12 8:04 AM And here is a demo by the same company of the HD3000: Janome HD3000 This is the one I was thinking about getting if anything happens to my Morse, but since it is an all metal tank, I don't think I'll have to worry about it any time soon. It will probably out live me. ------ http://sewtarot.blogspot.com/
sewfrequent Intermediate TX USA Member since 6/27/03 Posts: 2904	Login to reply to this post 1 member likes this. Date: 11/18/12 9:14 AM The 5027 is the former Kenmore 16231 that my daughter has. I really love that machine and it has great power. I'm not sure the price but I think under $400. Its also very quiet. It is stronger than some other Janomes for some odd reason. The HD1000 is a mechanical machine with good pluck and impeccable stitch quality. The HD3000 is supposed to be stronger too and I suspect that it is (haven't tried it) but between the HD3000 and 5027 (pink ribbon edition), I think you get more bang for your buck with the 5027.

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